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Books will educate readers on republic
Published 8:22am Monday, February 18, 2013The following is a list of books that elaborate upon American Law (i.e. The Constitution) and the Philosophy of Liberty that inspired our forefathers and established our Constitutional Republic.
The reason I have set forth this list is that it has been my experience that some, perhaps, most in this community have no clue as to why I am constantly displaying American Flags (to inspire you to fly them at home and to get informed, and get active in the Noble Cause of Liberty), and are yet uninformed as to our current situation here in America — why lines are being drawn, and the Sons of the Republic are Rising.
It is my prayer the following will help enlighten people as to why we are being drawn into conflict in this nation. For now let us generally remark that it is precisely for the reasons our forefathers drew up arms against British Tyranny, and why the Sons of the Republic are vocalizing dissent at Federal Tyranny, ultimately, it is for three reasons: Life, Liberty, and Property, all which are now currently under attack by the general government. Our forefathers fought for the Freedom we once enjoyed, please fight and defend that freedom by educating yourself and others on the following topics: The Constitution – for this I recommend, “The Founding Fathers Guide to the Constitution” by Brion McLanahan (amazon.com). This book is beyond simply a “must-read” it is a “must read, again and again – and teach these precepts to your children” book and should be required reading for every senior high school student (teachers, school board, please take note). Easy to understand, “The Founding Fathers Guide to the Constitution” is a quick read, easy to understand, and quotes directly from the Founding Fathers, leaving No Doubt as to the Constitutions meaning as ratified. The second topic, American Liberty – for this I recommend, “Liberty Defined: 50 essential issues that affect our freedom” by Ron Paul. In this book, Dr. Paul addresses over 50 essential topics from Abortion to Zionism. Third topic, States’ Rights (via 9th and 10th Amendments), for more information on this vital issue watch: “Don’t Tread On Me, Rise of the Republic” on youtube. Fourth topic, Decline of the Public School system, for more information on this please watch “Indoctrination: Public Schools and the Decline of Christianity in America” (Infowars.com). Every parent should see this film.
To understand the horrors of Washington D.C. and the tyranny we face from them today, I recommend any book by Judge Andrew Napolitano and the following websites: LibertyCrier.com, LewRockwell.com, Infowars.com, OathKeepers.org, CSPOA.org, fija.org, and of course, the website that is under constant attack, Infowars.com. Most of us are well aware we are in most unusual times in our nations history, the Battle Cry for the Republic has been sounded, now is the time to get informed, get equipped, and to stand and defend our Freedoms. May God Bless all Patriots in this Noble Cause. Stand ‘76
Joshua Lake
Fergus Falls
AS abortions were legal at the signing of our Constitution, in fact, only certain MEN had their rights guaranteed by the Constitution, to include a book which claims something else is true sort of the causes the whole of the suggested reading list to be suspect value. I’m not arguing for or against the act of abortion, only trying to present actual facts; not the fantasies of the far right.
“English laws were the colony’s laws except as modified by local statute.”
(James Horn – Adapting to a New World English Society in the Seventeenth-Century Chesapeake)
English Common Law:
“Life is the immediate gift of God, a right inherent by nature in every individual; and it begins in contemplation of law as soon as an infant is able to stir in the mother’s womb.”
(Sir William Blackstone referencing Bracton’s treatise, On the Laws and Customs of England)
“If any one strike a woman when pregnant, or administer poison to her, by which abortion shall ensue, if the child should be already formed, and particularly if it be alive, that person is guilty of manslaughter.”
(Bracton. 1.3. c.21.) This text is a translation from Latin, because it was 13th century text.
You see Larry, abortion had legal ramifications long before our Republic. Abortions were not ‘legal’, punishments were determined by local statute for its practice.
As extensive as Joshua’s list is, I found a few titles that should be on the reading (or at least audio book) list for all tea baggers.
“How I Graduated Third Grade, In Just Four years” by Billy Bob Slim Skitter Johnson
“No One Needs All 10 Toes” by Ray “AK-47” La Flat (Formally of the NRA Drill Team)
“Yes, Skoal Ready Cut is One Of the Five Food Groups” by Dr. Ratchet, Health Advisor to Rand Paul
“I’m Still Here, I’m Still Stupid and I’m Still Running For President” By Michele Bachmann
“What’s In a Name Anyway?” by Camilla Ryan, with a forward by Jerome Mullins
“I’m OK, You’re OK, But Everybody Else Is a Communist By Jerome Mullins, with a forward by Camilla Ryan
“My courageous Lifelong Fight Against My Mental Health”, by Curly Acker Richard Chipmunk, with foreward by Lary Erickson/Walt Henry. Edited and spell corrections by Moe
Phaedrus.
“Marx IS the Second Coming”, Moe Phaedrus and B.H. 0bama, edited by George Soros.
That looks like fun, so let’s not forget Jerome’s literary contributions.
“Playground Arguments aren’t just for the Playground Anymore – An Outline for applying these tactics to political/economic conversations (or anything else you don’t understand)”
And
“Converting to Conservativism: A Self-Help Guide and Instructional Manuel for In-Home, Self-performed Frontal Lobotomies”
You forgot “Reinventing a Better History for a Wimpy Person”. (Wimpy kid books are already a series and wimpy boy wouldn’t be gender neutral as it is self evident there are lots of irrationally fearful females too.
Jerome, if you can’t do something well, don’t do it at all.
“English laws were the colony’s laws except as modified by local statute.”
(James Horn – Adapting to a New World English Society in the Seventeenth-Century Chesapeake)
English Common Law:
“Life is the immediate gift of God, a right inherent by nature in every individual; and it begins in contemplation of law as soon as an infant is able to stir in the mother’s womb.”
(Sir William Blackstone referencing Bracton’s treatise, On the Laws and Customs of England)
“If any one strike a woman when pregnant, or administer poison to her, by which abortion shall ensue, if the child should be already formed, and particularly if it be alive, that person is guilty of manslaughter.”
(Bracton. 1.3. c.21.) This text is a translation from Latin, because it was 13th century text.
You see Larry, abortion had legal ramifications long before our Republic. Abortions were not ‘legal’, punishments were determined by local statute for its practice.
Mike–Brush up on the charters of the colonies post- Revolutionary War. That would be the time period after the war but before the adoption of the United States Constitution. Facts matter.
Larry, Blackstone’s “Commentaries on the Laws of England” is what is sometimes referred to as “English Common Law”. The Commentaries were in use well after the Revolution to define laws in the states.
Mike–you are confusing the killing of a born infant of less than a month old with the termination of a pregnancy prior to “guickening.” What English common law has to do with newly created American laws escapes me. You can read the Royal Charters for yourself. You can read the documents that created the states. You can even read the Constitution. They’re all there. Facts, Mike, facts not fantasy.
For nearly 600 years English Common Law followed the Jewish tradition in holding that the fetus was not a person until birth. (God “breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living being” [Gen. 2:7].) 17th Century English jurist Sir Edward Coke believed that abortion is murder only after the fetus is “born alive,” when “it is accounted a reasonable creature.”
In 1765 Sir William Blackstone, agreeing with the Catholic Church, moved the cut-off point back to when the fetus “quickens in the womb.” (Catholic canon law was not changed to conception until 1917.) “Quickening in the womb” is the English phrase for the Catholic criterion, drawn from Aristotle, of the fetus “being formed in the womb.” This is essentially the same as the standard of “viability,” which the Supreme Court made law in 1973.
Larry, maybe you should cite the author or location of the text you posted. It may lead someone to believe you are a plagiarist.
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Nick_Gier/Abortion2011.pdf
Full quote from Blackstone’s “Commentaries” (1765-1769)
Of the absolute Rights of Individuals
“Life is the immediate gift of God, a right inherent by nature in every individual; and it begins in contemplation of law as soon as an infant is able to stir in the mother’s womb. For if a woman is quick with child, and by a potion, or otherwise, killeth it in her womb; or if any one beat her, whereby the child dieth in her body, and she is delivered of a dead child; this, though not murder, was by the antient law homicide or manslaughter[o]. But at present it is not looked upon in quite so-126- atrocious a light, though it remains a very heinous misdemesnor.”
A great place to read this full text is:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/30802/30802-h/30802-h.htm
For the sake of honesty, lest someone believe it is your own writing, you should cite the author or location of the text you posted, Larry. The true author deserves credit.
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Nick_Gier/Abortion2011.pdf
Full quote from Blackstone’s “Commentaries” (1765-1769)
Of the absolute Rights of Individuals
“Life is the immediate gift of God, a right inherent by nature in every individual; and it begins in contemplation of law as soon as an infant is able to stir in the mother’s womb. For if a woman is quick with child, and by a potion, or otherwise, killeth it in her womb; or if any one beat her, whereby the child dieth in her body, and she is delivered of a dead child; this, though not murder, was by the antient law homicide or manslaughter[o]. But at present it is not looked upon in quite so-126- atrocious a light, though it remains a very heinous misdemesnor.”
A great place to read this full text is:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/30802/30802-h/30802-h.htm
Maybe you should cite the author or location of the text you posted, Larry. Otherwise, posts like this may lead someone to believe you are a plagiarist.
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Nick_Gier/Abortion2011.pdf
Full quote from Blackstone’s “Commentaries” (1765-1769)
Of the absolute Rights of Individuals
“Life is the immediate gift of God, a right inherent by nature in every individual; and it begins in contemplation of law as soon as an infant is able to stir in the mother’s womb. For if a woman is quick with child, and by a potion, or otherwise, killeth it in her womb; or if any one beat her, whereby the child dieth in her body, and she is delivered of a dead child; this, though not murder, was by the antient law homicide or manslaughter[o]. But at present it is not looked upon in quite so-126- atrocious a light, though it remains a very heinous misdemesnor.”
What a great morning!!! Mike, you DO understand your quote contains the definition of what British Common Law considered the accepted beginning of life; quickening. So now that we agree abortions were legal prior to the time of quickening and Roe v. Wade confirms that as the traditional beginning of life, then work with me to convince and if necessary condemn those who would try to alter our history. There is no strength or security in their actions. (See how easy it is to move the discussion forward when we talk facts not fantasies?)
(BTW–British Common Law was often founded on theological beliefs of one specific religion and not necessarily on the thought of natural rights and liberty of man. That is one of the biggest reasons our criminal laws are the things of statutes.)
Larry, I understand your statement “AS abortions were legal at the signing of our Constitution” to mean that abortions were legal throughout the American colonies. If this is not what you meant, it holds no more authority than the statement, “marijuana is legal in the US”, because in some areas marijuana is legal. The statement becomes a logical fallacy.
The reason for the quote, “English laws were the colony’s laws except as modified by local statute”, was to explain that there was no national governing authority legalizing abortion. Prior to Blackstone’s Commentaries, Henry de Bracton’s decision was, “If one strikes a pregnant woman or gives her poison in order to procure an abortion, if the fetus is already formed or animated, especially if it is animated, he commits homicide.” Blackstone’s Commentaries were completed only 7 years preceding the American Revolution.
“During the colonial period, the legality of abortion varied from colony to colony and reflected the attitude of the European country which controlled the specific colony. In the British colonies abortions were legal if they were performed prior to quickening. In the French colonies abortions were frequently performed despite the fact that they were considered to be illegal. In the Spanish and Portuguese colonies abortion was illegal.” (Acevedo Z. Women Health. 1979 – National Center for Biotechnology Information)
It has been an interesting moment in time, Larry. I didn’t expect you to so blatanly plagiarize; no quotes, no named reference.
Mike, you need to be careful when you pull on a loose thread of the security blanket conservatives often hide themselves beneath. If you continue to offer evidence that supports the idea there was not a universal belief system in the early colonies your conservative friends are likely to turn on you.
The writer of the letter to the editor above, seems to imply if you read the books he suggests you will learn the singular truth of our revolutionary history. As you correctly point out there was no universal agreement on much of anything. If there IS a universal truth to be found in our history it is one of a struggle between good and greed, personal liberties and respect for the liberty of others, self-sufficiency and strength in numbers.
Laws have never stopped abortions, just like laws could not stop Jesse Jackson Jr. from embezzling. The fact that abortions were performed does not mean that they were legal, or acceptable behavior. Laws are to maintain a civil society. Where abortions were legal, they were severely restricted.
When a child is aborted, God’s gift of life is destroyed. In relation to the civil society, that child’s liberties have been taken.
Conservatives are not afraid of history, we read scripture. We are appalled by the brutal murder of defenseless babies.
I doubt there are many women pregnant from rape who consider the unborn fetus a “gift of life from god”. If some male politician think it so…then he should step up with health care for the mother and child and support both for at least 18 years in a manner pleasing to god and sets a good example to society.
To say/think otherwise is to assert that there are molesters walking around with a gift from god in their pants. If you think that sounds crazy, you’re right.
Mike–when I was an early teenager my dad bought a snowmobile. My friends and I would take it south of Fergus and chase fox; chasing them to the point of their death. Such a thing was not illegal then for there were no laws yet in place that prohibited such a practice. Later laws were passed that made worrying fox, deer and other wildlife on snowmobiles illegal. Understand what I’m saying here?
Spend sometime reading some of the thoughts of Sir William Lambarde. He is reported to have been made keeper of the Tower records by Queen Elizabeth I. Quoted by Blackstone for his authority on and knowledge of British common law Lambarde predated Blackstone by about 150 years. Lambarde, citing two cases, one having occurred in 1327 and the other in 1348 gave this summery of common law regarding abortion this way “if the child be destroied in the mother’s belly, the destroier is no manslayer or Felone.” More of this quote can be found in a book titled Litigating Morality: American Legal Thought and Its English Roots by Wayne C. Bartee and Alice F. Bartee. Mike, what has happened as you can see for yourself, for whatever reason, good or bad, some people have changed definition of life and when it begins. It is one thing hope and work toward making that change the predominate moral philosophy in our country but it is not acceptable to anchor that claim on a foundation of history. History does not support that position.
Richard, are the majority of abortions due to rape, or are these abortions a small minority? I doubt it would be difficult to find a way to support rape victims and their babies. There are waiting lists for adoptive parents. The only justifiable way to destroy a human life is to identify his actions as evil. There is nothing more innocent than an infant.
I see Larry the Plagiarist is still posting.
Mike, your comment at 1:58 pm does not defeat my comment at 1:17 pm.
So Mike, did you have a little trouble getting links through the Journals’ filter? Me too. hahahaha
More than one link to a website in a comment triggers the Journal’s filter.
Many times a comment without a link at all will still get stuck. Even after an email to the editor gets it released it still remains unpublished as the comments remains stuck in “comment purgatory” called “your comment is awaiting moderation” until a second email or phone call get its out. (during “moderation” a comment is visible only on the authors computer)
Richard–my comment of 2/19 at 7:17 was one as you suggest. When I used a descriptive phrase in place of the word neonaticide I set off the filter.
I was informed of the two link issue by the administrator that preceded Seth. I had forgotten that issue.
Mike- I exchanged emails this morning with Nick Grier, Professor Emeritus, University of Idaho who’s opinion on the importance of accurately understanding history and who’s words I used in my argument. His final words to me were “Anyway, it was good of you to spread the word.” Isn’t the internet a great thing–so easy to go straight to the source. And Mike, it is heartwarming to see your Google skills are much improved after your rather public and repeated stumble earlier this year. I take no small credit for your new skills.
Larry/Walt, a grateful world raises eyebrows heavenward that we have you to reach down to we who are so abysmally inept that we cannot find and publish your library of “facts, figures, and correct interpretation of history” to enlighten our feeble minds. How charitable of you to instruct Mike in his computer illiteracy and mental depredation while extolling your own virtues and superiority.Shall I forward a recommendation to our Supreme Ruler for Life that he award you a Presidential Medal? No, that would be too minor an award for one so humbly erudite as yourself. I must solicit the Nobel Prize committee for nomination forms to consider you. Should I use the nom de plume of Larry Erickson or the amorphous Walt Henry, or one of the other identities?