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More sheriffs needed to uphold second amendment

Published 8:54am Friday, March 8, 2013 Updated 10:55am Friday, March 8, 2013

The state militia mentioned in the 2nd amendment is every man over 20 able to go to war, with some state constitutions varying a little from that. This concept comes from scripture (Numbers 26:2). Jesus instructed His followers to obtain swords for self defense (Luke 22:36), not to kill (Matthew 26:52).

According to the Declaration of Independence, life is a God given right. Since the militia is also God given and Jesus is the Son of God, therefore the right to defend the right to life is also God given.

All government officials take an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution, the authority of the United States; which states that it, and all statues and treaties “made in pursuant thereof”, “shall be the supreme Law of the Land.” Not statues, treaties, judicial rulings, executive orders and etc. that violate the rule of law of the U. S. Constitution 28 of Utah’s 29 Sheriffs gathered together and signed a letter opposing and defying federal attempts to infringe on the 2nd Amendment.

As of 2-1-2013, 242 sheriffs had issued similar public letters and statements; as also have a number of police chiefs and county commissioners.

Since crime increases where citizens have been disarmed and since these shootings in the news have been occurring in gun-free zones; for our safety, more Sheriffs, police chiefs, county and city commissioners of more states (including Minnesota) need to have state meetings to sign public statements that they will uphold and protect the 2nd Amendment.

 

Robert Peterson

Barrett

  • Walt Henry

    Are fully automatics and short barreled shotguns legal in the United States? Could it be over 80 years ago the Supreme Court determined that Congress can pass laws that restrict the types of guns private citizens may carry? That said, give the name(S) of the person or person’s who have the power to remove guns already in your possession?

  • Richard Olson

    I had no idea the Jesus endorsed assault style weapons, unlimited capacity magazines and drums. I don’t know if they had background checks to get a sword in those early days, but if they did I’m sure Jesus was against them.
    By the way, Columbine had an armed guard, which the shooters knew about, Fort Knox is not a gun free zone, the Gifford shooting in Tucson occurred with people in the crowd who had guns on their person. But didn’t shoot for fear of hitting innocent bystanders. There are also armed guards at Virginia tech.

    That’s really funny (or something) when 28 of 29 Sheriffs sworn to uphold the law gather in Utah to agree they will defy the Federal law they don’t like but will protect the Federal law they do like. I submit one can not depend on any law enforcement office who decides what level of protection he will enforce based upon his personal whim on any particular day.

    • camobabe

      Does that apply to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, Curly? He refuses to enforce immigration laws which Arizona chooses to enforce, and Holder/0bama have filed suit in Federal court to prevent Arizona from enforcing standing law which 0bama/Holder disagree with.
      Or, how abour 0bama and Holder refusing to uphold the congressionally passed Defense of Marriage Act because they get the votes and campaign donations of the homsexual special interest groups?
      Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.

      • Walt Henry

        Camilla, you quite correct but as with the conclusion of the letter writer quite irrelevant. We are a nation of the process of law. We have the freedom to ignore indivual laws. We have the freedom to selectively follow only certain laws. But there are also potential consequences if we exercise those freedoms. The actions or lack of actions concerning the DOA are in court. Arizona’s attempt to do something the Federal Government chose not to do went to court.
        We are a nation of self-governance. Starting with a perceived need (motive) those we elect create a law. It is then administered by people we’ve hired to do so. If there is a conflict we have conversations and have a decision made by impartial judges based on facts, math and history.
        You know yourself the speed limit might be posted at 55mph but it is possible to go faster. And if you go faster the sheriff might chose to stop you and give you a ticket. But say you are on your way to give birth after a complicated pregnancy the judge might chose not to “punish” your act of speeding.
        I know our strict Constitutionalist hate this but we are a nation of the process of law with all of the inherent conflicts that suggests. We are NOT a nation of 1776. We ARE a living and changing nation with many of the same needs but many others as well.
        Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.

      • Richard Olson

        As you well know Ginny, Arizona itself selectively enforces immigration laws and a lot of other laws the right wingers in that state hate.
        As far as the so–called Defense of Marriage act…big deal. That’s not a law so much as it is shoving someone’s religion onto someone else. In any case, no one died because some gay couple got married.
        But if some up tight knuckle dragging paranoid survivalist can’t get his daily dose of assault style rifles with unlimited capacity drums…whoa, that’s the end of freedom and liberty. The government will come to drag him out of his hole and take his guns and make him marry a queer from California, then rip some pages out of his old testament and replace them with transcripts of old Obama speeches from his community organizer days.

        • camobabe

          Curly, you just described the daily activities of the marxist socialist Supreme Ruler for Life in the White House. Larry, nice of you to admit that you and your fellow socialists will only obey laws which you agree with. What is your standing with regard to armed robbery, rape, murder? Are they also matters of choice whether to adhere to or reject when too inconvenient or limiting one’s happiness?

          • Walt Henry

            Camilla, I assume you live in the United States. Let me tell you a story. It’s a story like everyone one of our silent readers could tell. Very late on one very cold night I was driving through a small town. Past the last house and without any cross road in sight I sped up to highway speed and maybe a little beyond (70/55). On came some red flashing lights, the cops!!! “Do you know how fast you were going?” he asked. “Yes, officer.70.” “Do you know the speed limit here?” “Yes, officer, 55.” “No, sir,” he replied, “55 starts at the end of this row of trees. This is a 35mph zone.”
            Camilla, in your America that cop would have required to give me a ticket. But in my America he had a choice. I suppose I could have demanded he give me a ticket so I could conform to your vision of America. But you know what, in MY country we all have the right to make choices, even cops who use their judgment. And Camilla, there is no conservative or liberal view in that. Just those pesky facts. (If you open your windows you might hear the cheers of your neighbors agreeing with me for everyone could tell such a story.) BTW–both names are legal.

  • camobabe

    So, those cheering neighbors are to fall for your line of baloney that there is moral equivalency between murder, rape, armed robbery, enforcing border laws, and your fictional story about a moving vehicle infraction? Do you really have such a low regard of Americans that you believe they cannot see through your change of subject (from major felonies and invasion of our homeland) to a trivial traffic bust, and your lame excuse for seeing them all as the same type of offense?
    But, then, all of that seems logical within your myopic framework of moral relativism, no?
    Finally, your assertion that both of your aliases are legal names is just a slippery distraction from your hiding behind an alias. Larry is a legal name. Erickson is a legal name. So too is “Walt Henry”. But that does NOT mean that they are YOUR legal names. I could call myself Hillary Clinton, and assert that is a legal name..But, it wouldn’t be MY actual name.

    • Walt Henry

      What do choosing not to enforce a law likely to be found unconstitutional (the DOMA) or choosing to use limited federal dollars allotted for immigration law enforcement in a more concentrated manner have anything to do with major felonies or mass murderers? Camilla, I admire you for having no fear of public embarrassment. And Camilla, my world in this America was so big I needed a professional name as well as the name I was given on both of my birth certificates. (Yes, I have two of those by court order.)

      • camobabe

        And, obviously, several other pseudonyms.

  • crucified

    Larry, Phaedrus, and Richard;

    I know that we’ve had our differences and that we get into some heated discussions sometimes, but I want to put all that aside for the time being. I want to offer you guys my condolences on the loss of one of your own. I can only imagine the devestation and heart break that you guys are experiencing at this time. Just remember this; Hugo would be proud of all of you and even though he’s gone now he would want you guys to continue on in his work.

    Keep your heads up and look to your other heroes in the faith; Cuban leader Raul Castro and brother Fidel, Bolivian President Evo Morales, Syria’s mass-murdering Bashar al-Assad, Zimbabwe’s brutal Robert Mugabe, Belarus repressive dictator Alexander Lukashenko, and Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

    You guys are not alone in you suffering, there are other Americans grieving his loss as well; Sean Penn, Danny Glover, Oliver Stone, Michael Moore, Naomi Campbell, Susan Sarandon, and Harry Belafonte.

    My deepest sympathy in your loss!

    • Richard Olson

      How very super Christian of you Merle, to rejoice at the death of another human being. Yeah, I know you were just expressing your condolences. That means two sins, rejoicing at the death of another human, then lying about it.

    • Walt Henry

      Merle, you reminded me of a story–In an communications class the teacher was speaking of the repressive way women are treated in part of the world. She shared with her class an article written by one Robin Wright. One of the students raised his hand and said the article must have a decidedly leftist slant as the author was the former wife of Sean Penn and “we all know what a leftist HE is.” You see, in his little word and the world of his ultra right winged conservative parents there couldn’t possibly be TWO Robin Wrights, one an author and one an actress. Ignorance is bliss except when you are afraid of everything you can’t see in your small corner of the world. (Check the Book of Acts my friend, the early Christians were communists.) hahaha Don’t you hate facts sometimes?

      • Richard Olson

        There must be a branch of the Westboro Baptist Church in or near Perham. What other bunch of haters and mean disgusting people would have Merle Hexum as a member.
        One can only imagine what hate, prejudice and intolerance Merle passes to his children. This sound like a case for child protective services.

  • Richard Olson

    There must be a branch of the Westboro Baptist Church in or near Perham. What other bunch of haters and mean disgusting people would have Merle Hexum as a member.
    One can only imagine what hate, prejudice and intolerance Merle passes to his children. This sound like a case for child protective services.

  • crucified

    I cannot believe some of the things written by people on the left. Larry actually compares Christianity to communism! You could not find two more diametrically opposing ideologies than these two. Wherever communism has taken root the first order of business has been to silence the church and establish a state ran church.

    Communism is a horrible system that brings oppression, bondage, poverty, and despair.

    Christianity, authentic Christianity, brings freedom, prosperity, and hope. “Jesus came so that we would have life, and have it in its fullest.”

    Communism is an economic system, predicated on covetousness, where the State dictates who is deserving of what. Communism is an ideology created by people, full of envy and jealousy, who demand that government take from those they consider rich and give to those they deem poor.

    Christianity is a family of God’s children who’ve received His Son as their Lord and who are led by the Holy Spirit.

    Communism confiscates or steals from people under the guise of helping those in need. “Ephesians 4:28 Anyone who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with their own hands, that they may have something to share with those in need.”

    Christians give freely with a willing heart. “2 Corinthians 9:7 So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.”

    Communism promises equal outcome, but delivers poverty for all.

    Christianity promises God’s provision and delivers prosperity to those who obey. “Job 36:11 If they obey and serve him, they’ll spend their days in prosperity, and their years in pleasures.”

    Communism, whenever practiced, leaves devastation. ”For the nation or kingdom that will not serve you will perish; it will be utterly ruined.”

    Christianity, whenever practiced, brings blessings. “Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD”

    Communists despise those who prosper. “Envy is rottenness to the bones.”

    Christians welcome God’s favor. “For promotion comes neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south. God is the judge: he puts down one, and sets up another.”

    Communists look to government as their source. “It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.”

    Christians look to God as their source. “My God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus”

    Communists, socialists, liberals, progressives, democrats, or whatever they’re calling themselves these days; like their father appear caring and altruistic, but are really agents of destruction. “For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as ministers of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself appears as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also appear as servants of righteousness.”

    Larry, you miss the very heart of God, who Himself gave freely and wants his children to do the same. The book of Acts records a group of Christians, each one making an individual decision to live together in a commune setting and share their possessions with one another. “Acts 4:32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had.”

    Notice the differences; 1) They were a family of God’s childrens (believers), not a nation or secular society. 2) They gave their possessions freely, the government did not take it by force. 3) They were like-minded with one heart and one mind, not a diverse group with varying or contrasting moral beliefs.

    Larry, as I read your blather, a couple of thoughts from God’s word came to mind

    “Jude 19 These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. ”

    “2 Peter 3:16 There are some things in those [epistles of Paul] that are difficult to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist and misconstrue to their own utter destruction, just as [they distort and misinterpret] the rest of the Scriptures.”

    2 Timothy 4:7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth.

    “2 Corinthians 4:3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them who are lost: In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not”

    Equating Christianity to communism is absurd!

    • Walt Henry

      Merle, It is pretty important to believe ALL of the New Testament not just the parts that fit your viewpoint. Act 2:44 describes the practice of pure communism. What ever else you might be describing is not pure communism. It does seem to me you are revealing a little too much of what is truly in your heart. Would that we all could follow in the footsteps of those early Christians and share all; taking only for ourselves what we really need. Facts matter–If the Bible is a book of fact, Merle, you’re are face to face with one.

      • crucified

        So Larry, Do I lay all my possessions down at Apostle Obama’s feet, or just wait for him to take it? Are his banker buddies and union thugs currently in need or are they okay for now?

        • Walt Henry

          When walking and you see a man broken and beaten in the gutter do you cross the road or offer assistance? Do you hoard guns and ammo because you have more worries than the lilies of the field? Have you given all you have and are walking the path with the Christ? (I don’t know what totalitarian government systems or Barack Obama has to do with God’s directives.) Those things said, Merle, you write as though the path of Christ is foreign to you.

          • Richard Olson

            He is after all,a money lender.

  • crucified

    Richard, you are an admitted atheist, yet you think you understand the heart of God. You do not know God, but you think you can speak for Him as concerning what is and what is not acceptable behavior.

    1) Yes I rejoice when the wicked perish!

    Proverbs 11:10 When it goeth well with the righteous, the city rejoiceth: and when the wicked perish, there is shouting.

    Proverbs 29:2 When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.

    Proverbs 28:12 When the righteous triumph, there is great elation;
    but when the wicked rise to power, people go into hiding.

    Psalm 58:10 The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.

    2) You accuse me of lying, yet you somehow know instinctively and immediately that I was not sincere in my condolences. Either; A) you really thought that I was trying to deceive you, or, B) you knew I was using satire but wanted to accuse me of lying in order to slander me. I give you more credit than to believe that you are really so naive as to actually think I was attempting to deceive you (lie). I understand that liberals have no sense of humor and are incessantly using political correctness to hinder free speech, but there hang ups are not going to put me in bondage and keep me from using humor to illustrate their absurdities.

    • Richard Olson

      Merle, That’s the wonderful thing about the bible, regardless your point there is some vague passage that encourages your behavior or excuses it. Hate, slavery murder, all things are possible with a concordance and the willingness to find divine support for your bad behavior or the willingness to disregard the passages you don’t care for today….tomorrow who knows?

      I’ll be he first to admit that I do not know god nor can I speak for him/she/it…how could I? He/she/it doesn’t exist save in the superstitious minds of frightened naive people still living in third grade Sunday school. Christianity as a way of life or perhaps as part of some moral code is another thing entirely. In any case Merle you are one of the poorest examples of what a true follower of Jesus should be, and the only person who fails’ to know that appears to be you.

      If there is a god however, my wish is that the god that greets you at those pearly gates is a gay socialist liberal with Karl Marx standing at his side. In that case Merle, you would be what in some circles is referred to as SOL, with a load of justice on the side.

      • holly

        “He/she/it doesn’t exist save in the superstitious minds of frightened naive people still living in third grade Sunday school.”

        Wow. The bigotry and hate just oozes out of you like pus from a festering boil.

        • Richard Olson

          Get over yourself Holly, Just because I don’t share your naïve view of the world doesn’t make me a bigot. It is your view that says I have to believe what you believe that makes you a bigot. You’re the bigot here and your own words confirm it. I don’t care if you want to believe in god or the tooth fairy and Easter bunny. That’s your business, but that doesn’t stop me from having an opinion about your beliefs. The world doesn’t revolve around you and your imaginary man in the sky or talking snakes. Instead of constantly whining about me why don’t you grow up and write a defense of your beliefs without quoting the bible?

          Lets see if you’re the scholar you pretend to be or just another internet whining troll. I suspect we’re in for a long wait if we expect anything other than another hate filled diatribe about me.

          • holly

            Bigot – “a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion”

            The shoe fits perfectly.

          • holly

            Bigot – “a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.”

            The shoe fits perfectly.

            Nope, no quoting of bible verses. Never have, never will.

            I am only here to annoy you.

  • crucified

    Larry,

    1) B. offer assistance?

    2) No, I believe in the 2nd ammendment because the founders of this great nation, who were inspired by God, knew that wicked men would rise up and attempt to rule over the citizens unless they had the ability to defend themselves. No Worries!

    3) I have given myself completely to Jesus (the Christ) and am walking the path with Him.

    4) As a leader of this country (one of the 300,000,000 citizens), it is my responsibility and obligation to support the king (the constitution) from those who would want to detroy him or unseat him. Currently there are many traitors in this nation, enemies of our king (US Constitution), who would like to replace him with a totalitarian government system, including our servant Barack Obama. God’s directives to those in authority is to protect the people from their enemies. Those things said, Larry, you write as though the path of Christ is foreign to you.

    • Richard Olson

      “3) I have given myself completely to Jesus (the Christ) and am walking the path with Him.”……in that case, Jesus has lost his way.

  • crucified

    Larry, now that I`ve answered your questions, maybe you can answer a few of mine.

    1) What do you feel that Christians are to do when they see someone in need; Reach into their own pocket and offer assistance, or apoint dictatorial tyrants to take from others by force and redistribute their wealth?

    2) Goliath came against the children of God and was killing David’s countrymen. David went to Goliath with a weapon (a slingshot and stones) and he killed the evil man. David then picked up another weapon (a sword) and slew Goliath and cut off his head. Was David being disobedient and wicked or was he doing what was just and right?

    3) Jesus admonished us to turn the other cheek. Do you believe that Jesus was telling His followers (individuals) to not be easily offended or hold grudges against those who persecute or abuse you, or, do you believe that Jesus was a pacifist who advocated that his followers be doormats and allow evil men to victimize them and their families, that if a rapist was attempting to rape your daughter or a murderer was about to stab your wife, God would want you to look the other way?

    4) Rulers of a nation have to make decisions as what to do when they are attacked, or even threatened. Are rulers of nations the servants of God ordained to take vengeance on and punish wicked people, or; are they suppose to be pacifists that only use diplomacy, but never use force?

    • Walt Henry

      Merle, the constitution is NOT Caesar, the people are. The Constitution was a document created to allow us to live together and freedoms to live apart. How can I make this claim? Because we know “We The People” can change the Constitution. It is a fact of history we can choose to limit the types of guns private citizens can “bear”. (Fully automatics and short barreled shotguns to name two.)
      Second, the claim the Constitution was created by God fearing men might very well be accurate, but it is NOT accurate to claim they were Christians. So who/what was the God they feared? We don’t know. Our discussion, yours and mine, has been focused on the path of the Christian God. That is where we should stay.
      You ask how should a Christian help the poor? I say as we are able, by majority vote, through taxes and spending we can choose that process as one vehicle through which we offer help–remember that money in your bank account belongs in part to Caesar and the rest to God. (Part of the path Christ walked)
      When agents of Caesar came to arrest Jesus, Peter pulled his sword. Jesus told Peter directly to put away your sword for “Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword.” I can not find arming myself to resist “Caesar” consistent with Christ’s command. (Part of the path Christ walked.)
      And lastly, “The Lord is my Shepard I shall not want.” How many sheep carry AK-47′s?
      Merle, there is a price a Christian pays to be worthy to be known as Christian and that price is a surrender of one’s self, fears, worries, false sense of human strength. We, like the wealthy man, are instructed to give all to the poor; our trust in Him, not in the tools of our own devices; our money, property or guns. In return we receive companionship while we walk the path of Christ.
      Merle, you are certainly free to think and say otherwise but I wouldn’t call it Christianity for it is no closer to the path of Christ than the totalitarian force used on the people of the USSR in the name of communism.
      Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord. (Darn, those pesky Biblical sayings. Always getting in the way.)

    • Walt Henry

      Could someone check the filter box please? :)

      • Richard Olson

        Let mine go to. I have 4 in comment jail.

        • Walt Henry

          Until my more compete response is released from comment jail consider this–unless some miracle of the “loaves and fishes” variety was forthcoming one might wonder why Jesus thought a couple of swords (2) would be enough for protection from a whole Roman legion or an equally hostile Jewish city. Could it be his disciples/followers misunderstood His “get swords” remark just as the letter writer seems to have misunderstood?

  • camobabe

    Curly and Larry, some words of advice about comments hung up in the filter. Just write an email to the journal’s email address, Attn Joel Myhre, and tell him some of your mails are obviously hung up in the filter. He generally sees to it that the person assigned to cleanng out the box gets in there and releases (or in the case of your emetic screeds; unleashes) what is hung up there. Of course, you are advised to make a request without calling into question the character and honesty or right to exist of Mr. Myhre, your usual tactics when dealing with anybody who seems to be hesitant to give over whatever you want.
    Some of us know another tactic to assure that our comments will be posted, without having to rely on what I detailed above, but no way am I going to advise you how to flood this site with even more of your bilge.

    • Walt Henry

      Camilla, I pleased that my hometown newspaper provides an open forum such as this. I have nothing but respect for those who operate it and do I want to inconvenience them in any way. The comment caught in the filter was a response to Merle and important only in that I didn’t want him to feel unloved or disrespected. The comment that did get through is good enough for it shows while many of us can read, discernment is a gift and that gift from God; one not all of us possess.

  • holly

    Bigot – “a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.” The shoe obviously fits quite well.

  • crucified

    Larry, your response is probably in jail because it was filled with psycho-babble. I wasn’t looking for a political answer from a pseudo-intellectual. Just the answers to the questions. I will make it easy for you; just select the corresponding letter. Choose (A) or (B) to the 4 following questions. If you want to elaborate afterward, that’s fine, but first answer the questions.

    1)

    A. Reach into their own pocket and offer assistance?

    B. Apoint dictatorial tyrants to take from others by force and redistribute their wealth?

    2)

    A. Was David being disobedient and wicked?

    B. Was David doing what was just and right?

    3)

    A. Do you believe that Jesus was telling His followers (individuals) to not be easily offended or hold grudges against those who persecute or abuse you?

    B. Do you believe that Jesus was a pacifist who advocated that his followers be doormats and allow evil men to victimize them and their families, that if a rapist was attempting to rape your daughter or a murderer was about to stab your wife, God would want you to look the other way?

    4)

    A. Are rulers of nations the servants of God ordained to take vengeance on and punish wicked people?

    B. Are they suppose to be pacifists that only use diplomacy, but never use force?

    • Richard Olson

      Hey Larry, isn’t it nice of Merle to provide you with your own answers? That way you don’t have to do any thinking for yourself, Merle will do it for you. It’s too bad Merle can’t think enough to ever answer any of the many questions I’ve put to him over the years.

      • crucified

        Richard, have you ever heard of multiple choice? There pretty simple questions, either David’s action were just or they were evil.

        • Richard Olson

          Merle, it’s not multiple choice when you limit the choice to just the choices you select in order to direct someone to the answer you desire. David’s (if he ever existed) actions may have been just to a certain point and unjust after that point. We will never know because the fantasy story only gives the account according to one side. Even if we assume the account is accurate, I suspect the day it supposedly occurred David’s target was 5 feet tall, today he’s a giant. Sounds like some fishing stories I’ve heard.

          There is no independent mention of King David outside of the bible and (of course) in some scribbling on the wall in the one under ground water supply the Zionists say they just happen to find under the Palestinian section of Jerusalem and so consider the water supply theirs and can legally be taken from the Palestinians.

          It’s some sort of wonderful when the scribbling of a few goat herders two thousand years age can be used as justification for murder, theft, torture and isolation of the descendants of those same goat herders in order to fulfill the predictions and warrants of the original goat herders.

          • Walt Henry

            A group of small minded men approached a great teacher and asked a question with what they thought only had an A or a B answer. The answer the teacher gave them has haunted the selfish, the small minded and the arrogant ever since, “Give to Caesar that which is Caesar and to God that which is God’s.” Notice, He didn’t indicate how much of the gifts I have been given by God is mine to keep; or how much Merle can keep. As to the question of David and the Israelite army to whom God granted authority to use lethal force–I would be reluctant to think I have been given such authority as I am neither Jewish or likely to be God’s choice to lead His kingdom. (I wonder if my earlier comments are being restricted by the Journal staff to protect Merle from public embarrassment, which is never my intention though is often the outcome. I trust their judgment in that regard.)

        • Walt Henry

          Merle, I might often be guilty of hubris but I rarely do I think I have the right to judge the actions of God.

          • crucified

            When you say judge, in ths context, are you meaning to condemn or use discernment?

  • crucified

    “–I would be reluctant to think I have been given such authority as I am neither Jewish or likely to be God’s choice to lead His kingdom. ”

    “rarely do I think I have the right to judge the actions of God”

    Larry, you have answered truthfully, even though you just happened to stumble on to the truth.

    1) You are incapable of discerning the actionbs of God.

    1 Corinthians 2:12-16 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, for,

    “Who has known the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?”But we have the mind of Christ.

    2) You are not a Jew, neither inward or outward.

    Romans 2:28-29 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

    3) You are not God’s choice to lead His Kingdom or speak on His behalf.

    2 Corinthians 5:18-20 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.

  • Walt Henry

    Merle, your question concerning David and Goliath is asking me to judge God for the path of the rock from David’s sling killed Goliath with the assistance of God–or so the story claims. I try to leave the judgment of God to those who think they ARE god.

  • camobabe

    “When a strong man, fully armed, guards his house, his possessions are safe.” Jesus, in Luke 11:21

    • Walt Henry

      Merle!!!!! Camilla needs a word of knowledge to help her understand the difference between history (the fact that it seems God helped David kill another human being) and the need for discernment–was Jesus really suggesting birds of the air and flowers of the field need a closet full of semi-automatics? Thanks for the day brightener!

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