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Safety agencies failed to protect citizens from terrorists [UPDATED]

Published 9:21am Friday, April 26, 2013 Updated 11:36am Friday, April 26, 2013

I read several newspapers and watch many news programs. From them I have learned several things about the Tsarnaev brothers who murdered the people at the Boston marathon and threw Boston into fearful

tension for days.

For example I have learned that the brothers and their family were beneficiaries of our lavish welfare system.

Welfare payments helped the older terrorist to drive a silver Mercedes, to wear designer clothes, to finance a trip to Russia to be trained as a terrorist for radical Islam.

I learned that after living off welfare for years, his mother stole $1,600 in expensive clothes, skipped

her court date and fled the country for the jihadist hotbed of Dagistan.

Then, after her sons blew up the spectator section at the marathon she screamed that her sons were victims of a government conspiracy and threw in a few “Allahu Akbars” for good measure.

Despite the generosity of the taxpayers to support their lifestyle, this family didn’t “assimilate” to the U.S.A.

The largesse of our super state welfare did not win them over. From what is available to see in our media, every element of Big Government failed in creating a clear path for the terrorists actions: gun control, immigration, the welfare state, academia, Homeland Security — all failed.

The bomber brothers and their radical agenda of advocating terrorism, immersed in a lake of government agencies, failed to raise any red flags in the agencies we are led to believe are protecting us. Many are raising questions.

The national security agencies, alerted by intelligence agencies of foreign countries, should have been tracking Tamerlan Tsarnaev. If they wanted to track him, they could have just contacted the welfare agency. They knew where they sent his checks.

 

Mandy Peterson

Fergus Falls

  • BrendanJanssen

    But WHY should they have been tracking him? The FBI did an interview and investigation into him before and found nothing. You are using this as a bad cover for a deeper agenda to criminalize the welfare system that is in place. To that I say this: The system has failed in this case, this one rare case of extremism.

  • Walt Henry

    Do we know for sure, that is, are there any real facts, statistics, cancelled checks that support the idea welfare played any role in this act of terror at all? Or is someone just repeating the rants of talk radio and other banished “broadcasters”?

  • Richard Olson

    Virtually everything in this letter to the editor is wrong. The only thing this letter proves is that Mandy Peterson watches Fox phony News and World net daily. Or that Mandy Peterson has information which may help the investigation. In which case she should contact the FBI immediately because she clearly has information law enforcement agencies do not.

    Peterson has a hatred for government assistance, that much is clear. However I have to wonder why she would throw this jab at anyone, “and (she) threw in a few “Allahu Akbars” for good measure.” Wow that sure is incriminating….by the way Mandy, that means “God is Great”. (when spelled correctly)

    In any case here is what Snopes says about Mandy Petersons wild imagination:

    “ So, based on currently available information, it appears that one of the Tsarnaev brothers (Tamerlan) was on U.S. government watch lists, and at least one of the Tsarnaev brothers (Tamerlan again) received some form of public assistance, but details of the latter (and whether Dzhokar received similar assistance) are still unclear. (last updated April 26th, 2013

    Sources:

        Cassidy, Chris et al.   “Patrick Administration Refuses to Release Tsarnaev Brothers’ Records.”
        Boston Herald.   25 April 2013.
        Deutsch, Kevin.   “Source: Zubeidat Tsarnaeva Added to Terrorism Watch List in 2011.”
        Newsday.   26 April 2013.
        Schmitt, Eric et al.   “2 U.S. Agencies Added Boston Bomb Suspect to Watch Lists.”
        The New York Times.   24 April 2013”

    • Richard Olson

      Oh, here is one more thing government agencies have failed to protect us from….Last year 247 people on the terrorist watch list were able to buy guns legally. Which we all know is just the “Bees Knees” as far as the NRA is concerned. On April 17th, 2013 Senate republicans blocked a bill that would have that illegal.

      How about that Mandy? Are you against people on the terrorist watch list buying guns? Is that OK with you?

    • camobabe

      Curly, whenever I see one of you lefty radicals quoting snopes or wikipedia I know that you are desperately grasping for any straw to confuse and cover up the facts which expose the schemes and failings of libtards and socialists. I have a nine year old who knows better than to read the snopes and wilipedia fairytales.

      Mandy laid out a collection of facts not just from Fox, but from such 0bama propaganda organs as Associated Press,
      N.Y. Times, Reuters, CNN and ABC, and even the MSP Red Star and Tribune. 0bama doesn’t yet the ability to totally cover up onformation which exposes his incompetence and duplicity, though with the aid of trolls like you and Larry and Brendan he wages a propaganda and disinformation war against our country and its peoples.

      • Richard Olson

        Gee Camilla/Ginny, you sure shot my comment out of the saddle. Where I cited Snopes and provided sources, you provided nothing other than your tired common usual rant left over from the teabag/hillbilly stump and conclusion jumping rally.
        I really wish you’d take some time off to brush up on your hate slurs. The stuff you think is so clever and fresh was first used by one of your hero’s Joe McCarthy in the fifties. I guess however when one considers the verbal granary available to you it is obvious other rats infested the stockpile before you learned your craft from such notable verbal athletes as Calvin Coolidge and Marcel Marceau. I sure if you applied yourself, within a few short weeks you could expand your repertoire beyond the six hate terms you now use to 10 or even 12. Who knows? If you had help, 14 is not out of the question. Give it a try Camilla/Ginny, you’ll feel better about yourself and your fellow tea baggers will think you’ve been secretly reading books.
        (and you won’t have to tell your 9 year old)

      • BrendanJanssen

        What “facts” are you speaking of in Mandy’s letter? Even though there is a good chance these guys were the Boston Bombers, they haven’t been found guilty in court, so even that isn’t a “fact” yet. It’s all speculated. I mean for crying out loud, notice how Mandy says “Welfare payments helped the older terrorist to drive a silver Mercedes.” What a load of crock designed to create hate towards the welfare system. What year was the Mercedes?? For all we know, it was 20 years old and worth $500 in scrap metal.

        No one demanding actual facts is trolling, Camilla. But, if that’s how you define it, then it’s no wonder that you are in the la-la land you seem to be stuck in.

        • J Mullins

          Brandon, do you know for sure the Mercedes is a 20 year old junker? You accuse Camilla and Mandy of speculating
          and then propose that we believe as fact that the murderer on welfare was driving a devalued piece of juk that any destitute commoner would have?

          Who is speculating now, Brandon? I suppose we can expect you to tell us soon that the 0bamas donate a majority of their income to charity and paid more than the reported 17% of their several hundred thousands in earnings last year?

          • Richard Olson

            Where on earth did you learn to read Jerome? Brendan was not speculating. He said “For all we know, it was 20 years old and worth $500 in scrap metal.” Or put another way we don’t know how old the car is….neither do you nor does Mandy Peterson, but she wants readers to assume that foreigners can get new luxury cars through our welfare system. Therefore we should hate foreigners and welfare and by extension everyone who fails to march lockstep with conservative tea baggers.

            It’s no wonder you tea baggers hate books so much…you can’t read.

          • BrendanJanssen

            Richard, they can’t even spell a name right that is posted right in front of them. Don’t expect them to be able to read and comprehend as well. That’s what they will learn when they move on to 2nd grade.

  • J Mullins

    Paid more than 17% in taxes , that is.

  • J Mullins

    ABC Evening News, Tuesday, April 30 reports that the Tsarnaevs received at least $100,000 from the welfare system. That money came from U.S. taxpayers so that the Boston terrorists could have a place to live, food to eat, and a Mercedes to drive about while building bombs to murder innocent bystanders watching a race.

    Now, let us just speculate a teensy weensy bit by wondering how many other terrorists are living on welfare checks from we who pay our taxes to a government which can’t get enough people with their snouts in the public trough. I suppose that the next brilliant move we can expect from 0bama will be an offer to put all the muslims in the middle east on our welfare system as a bribe to keep them from coming here with jihad on their minds. We can just pay them tribute with our paychecks while they use the funds to build bigger and more powerful bombs, eh?

    • Walt Henry

      It seems the payments to the family of the killers stopped in 2012, about the time the older brother “radicalized.” hmmmm?

    • Walt Henry

      It seems the payments to the family of the killers stopped in 2012, about the time the older brother “radicalized.” hmmmm? Who was president, if we are going to find blame at the highest level, when they came to this country for political asylum? And how much does a Mercedes cost?

    • Walt Henry

      It seems the payments to the family of the killers stopped in 2012, about the time the older brother “radicalized.” Who was president, if we are going to find blame at the highest level, when they came to this country for political asylum? And how much does a Mercedes cost?

    • BrendanJanssen

      Good grief. Are you going to state all the facts, or just the ones you want to make to demonize anyone who doesn’t share your beliefs?

      Yes, Tamerlan, his wife, and his daughter received welfare payments for many years to supplement their income. That was definitely reported. How many years, we don’t know. The ABC report I read stated that the amount is unknown, but I will take your $100,000 (not sure where you came up with that) and assume it’s true (for now). The report from ABC that I read stated that Tamerlan started received benefits at the time that he immigrated to the US, which was many, many years prior to when welfare payments stopped. At any given time, $100,000 might seem like a lot, but if you divide that up over a decade, that’s only $10,000 per year. That’s hardly enough to scrape by on by yourself, let alone a family. Also, you failed to mention that his wife was working over 80 hours per week and they were STILL not making it. If anything, this should be a valid argument for raising minimum wage.

      • Phaedrus

        “The Tsarnaev family, including the suspected terrorists and their parents, benefited from more than $100,000 in taxpayer-funded assistance — a bonanza ranging from cash and food stamps to Section 8 housing from 2002 to 2012, the Herald has learned.”

        “The rent subsidy: The PHA calculates the maximum amount of housing assistance which a family may receive. A family typically pays between 30 and 40 percent of its monthly income on rent and utilities. The maximum housing assistance is generally the lesser of two amounts: 1) the payment standard minus 30 percent of the family’s monthly adjusted income, or 2) the gross rent (that is, the rent to the owner plus the average utility costs) for the unit minus 30 percent of monthly adjusted income.”

        “Maximum Monthly Food Stamp Benefit (family size in parenthesis): (1) $200 – (2) $367 – (3) $526 – (4) $668 – (5) $793”
        So, $10,000/year or $833 month in a high rent city like Boston. Yup, rolling in the dough.

        • Walt Henry

          Thank you Mr. Wolf for doing the math. Those big grand numbers don’t seem so big and grand when a person capable of complex thought dissects them. (Don’t you kind of wish certain news sources would do the work for those who are too limited to do it for themselves?)

    • Richard Olson

      Who are you trying to kid Jerome? You don’t watch ABC, that’s the “lamestream media”. You told all of us that we can’t trust the lamestream media and now you cite them as a source to support your argument that welfare breeds terrorists.

      I’m going to do a little speculating myself. I speculate that you have ingested some hallucinogenic pharmaceuticals that cause your few remaining grey cells to see Muslims, Marxists and Socialists under your bed and they are all driving new Mercedes Benz automobiles with Chairman Mao in the back seat with Janis Joplin drinking Champaign and singing Deutschland über alles while smoking weed wrapped in a copy of the second amendment.

      • J Mullins

        Nice try, Curly, but I quoted ABC News since you lefties cite them so often to prove the “truth” of what you write here. So, if I am using your go-to sources to tell that the welfare system of Big Nanny government paid $100,000 to terrorists, your source suddenly is not as trustworthy as when it is propangandizing for 0bama?

        And, Moe’s obfuscating analysis of the welfare payments to the terrorists nothwithstanding, the $100 grand was only for food and other incidentals. MSNBC tonight (reluctantly, no doubt) informed that the playful chid terrorists were also drawing rent subsidy money, which was disbursed from a different welfare account. Hence, as we wait for the next shoe to drop in this sordid tale of the leftist regimes in Boston and Washington, you can prepare to attack anyone else who reports facts you don’t wanr any of the low information public to hear.

        By the way, the surviving terrorist was matriculating at the University of Massachusetts on a full ride all expenses paid scholarship from public, taxpayer funds. I wonder if he had a chemistry or physics class at our expense so he could learn how to build bombs. Might he have used his EBT credit card to buy a few pressure cookers? More details to follow, as the press seems entranced with learning all the details, and this event is going to supply fodder for the revelations of the incompetence and disdain of the 0bama regime for quite a while.

  • Richard Olson

    Hey, I’m with you Jerome, I’ve had enough of those so-called refugees living of the tax dollars of hard working American citizens.

    Lets put a halt to the rip-off, lets start with those Cuban refugees who just don’t like communism.
    From now on no “Federal Refugee Resettlement Money” for Cubans and everyone else. No social security disability for Cubans and any other refugees. No more food stamps and no more help finding a job for those Cubans who hate communism.

    Oh, wait. I forgot. Cubans are a different story because Cuba has a sort of communist government.

    Never mind.

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