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Betting against the instant replay in the 2008 election

Published 06:00 a.m., November 1, 2008

After 8 years of Bush-Cheney imperialism, and 4 to 8 more years of the same under McCain-Palin, would student loans, veterans benefits, social security, medicare, and our our public infrastructure survive? The last 8 years have challenged our basic United States citizen’s rights and basic values. Bush-Cheney have allowed the torture of prisoners, illegal wire taps and monitoring of selected political activists, plus obscene profits and tax breaks for multinational oil and gas companies. How many more plagues on our nation will follow if McCain-Palin are allowed to continue the Bush-Cheney agenda? How many more lost lives and billions of dollars in cost will be added to the losses in the undefined Iraq war? How much more pain, and lost personal wealth and national resources can we tolerate? Betting that the results of the past 8 years of Bush-Cheny will change if McCain-Palin are elected is irresponsible. This vital presidential election is our chance to change the course of our country . On November 4th, voting for McCain-Palin is exactly the same as betting against the results of an “instant replay”.

Glenn Donnay - Fergus Falls


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Posted by betterworld (anonymous) on November 1, 2008 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree completely. Clearly Obama leads because he is the one who will tackle issues with the spirit of cooperations rather than the hardliners who have been controlling our United States.

The junk being submitted by bible thumping I'm right, You're wrongs amazes me. Right-to-life, equity for some~not all, those issues...

Here's a thought. If we follow bible thumpers ideology and if Dick Cheney loves his daughter who is a Lesbian, then Dick Cheney is the devil, right?

This is a foolish and ignorant statement. No different that some of the editorials written in the past couple of days from hard right Christians. I'm a Christian. I love people. I love all of God's Children. Not just a select few who happen to attend my Church for an hour on Sunday......

Obama. To make our United States a better world for us, for our future generations.

Posted by betterworld (anonymous) on November 1, 2008 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jery, I never thought I would lower myself to answering to any of your thoughtless banter because you are so tunnel-visioned and have little to say about all of the truly global issues facing the United States, but your statement above deserves the rare answer. A "bible thumper" to me, is one who blindly follows the bible, leaving little interpretation for anything else. Our world is a big one, there are many "Gods" out there, everybody has their own interpretation, and so it should be. But bible thumpers think their, and only their, interpretation is correct. And so in fact they blindly follow and choose not too think, just blindly follow.

Sarcastic bantering is not going to solve our Conntry and Global issues.......

Posted by retiredteacher (anonymous) on November 1, 2008 at 3:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nice article, Glen.

Posted by retiredteacher (anonymous) on November 2, 2008 at 8:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jerry, who are you to judge others the way you do? Christ says that's a job left up to Him, His Father, and the Holy Spirit. In fact, He tells us as clearly as possible to"judge not less ye be judged." Of course, during elections we're forced by the democratic process to make some judgements about candidates, but that's as far as we really need to go. We have no good reason to be insulting and nasty to one another simply because we don't politically see eye-to-eye. Perhaps what irritates some of us is the rather arrogant self-righteousness that some confuse for righteousness. I guess none of us are perfect and without sin. We actually need one another's perceptions of reality to put together any kind of reasonable and accurate picture of it. I recommend the "The Blind Men and the Elephants" to those who think they have it all figured out.

Posted by betterworld (anonymous) on November 3, 2008 at 5:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Capitalist, "Just when prices were beginning to stabilize" Huh??? Our fuel bill was 3 times what it was last year, gas is lower for a few days and you cannot call it "stabilized". All cost-of-living expenses have skyrocketed, there is no "stabilized" about it.

Posted by Clara (anonymous) on November 3, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I can hardly wait for Obama to win! I will get to quit my job because someone elses wealth will be distributed to me. What a great Country!

Posted by MNfrozen (anonymous) on November 3, 2008 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As I have mentioned before (not here but in comments sections) We all need to remember that whoever is elected into office, has a tough (tuff?) job ahead of him and it will be almost impossible to make the change we need in four years. Also he will be selecting a group of people that will help him lead the country in right direction. The new administration no matter who it is will be better than what we have had.
We need to all keep our heads on straight and definatley keep all religion OUT of government.

Posted by anamerican (anonymous) on November 3, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Anarch,
You are an early 20's newbie to the job market whose only claim to fame is playing high school soccer. For those of us that have worked for a living, pay the higher tax rates get tired of listening to those whom have an entirely skewed sense of reality (and of self-importance) when it comes to real world economics and how it affects one's personal wealth. I have a degree from St. Thomas (Econ/Mktg, minor in Management) but better yet a PHD in the real world of running a business. Before you spew anymore of your psycho-babble, do us a favor, ...don't. You have nothing to offer of any importance until you have life experience.

Posted by goingfishing (anonymous) on November 3, 2008 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jerry, very well said.
I add to what you said the fact that he consistently lies, cannot be trusted, is two faced, has the least experience of the candidates, openly favorites those of color over white, is anti-gun, doesn't talk of immigration (can you say illegal aunt), wants to take my money and give to those too lazy to work and favors Marxism. It's going to be interesting to see all the investigations in to his fundraising going on after the election.
It's going to be a long, long 4 years after he is elected. And, being a small business owner, when my taxes go up, there is going to be one very unhappy employee who will be laid off because I have to pay the additional taxes.
I have such a hard time understanding how those who support him can't see all the bad there is with him.

Posted by AmyO (anonymous) on November 3, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"I have such a hard time understanding how those who support him can't see all the bad there is with him."

One of the things I think the Obama campaign has done phenomenally well this election season is to convince people it's important to focus on what is good about him and what he can potentially do for this country. The McCain campaign and the Republicans have thrown everything but the kitchen sink at Obama over the past months and, according to the polls, nothing has seemed to stick. Why is that? Well, the biggest reason is because they have thrown everything but the kitchen sink at him. McCain campaign and the Republicans have been ranting about "socialism" one day, Bill Ayers the next day, Rev. Wright the day after that, maybe spend a day complaining about ACORN, and then maybe talk about the economy and Joe the unemployed plumber the next day. His whole campaign has reeked of opportunism and I think after awhile people just stopped taking the things they were saying seriously.

Kind of like Jerry's copy and paste job up there. It's like a blindfolded person throwing darts at a wall with a dartboard on it. Sure, it's true that the more darts you throw the better your chances are of hitting the bull's eye, but after awhile it becomes pretty clear to everyone watching that a blindfolded person throwing darts is just plain dangerous and little bit scary. Kind of like some of the recent McCain/Palin rallies. This election has basically boiled down to who the American people see as being the biggest positive change for the country. McCain has based his entire campaign around raising doubts about and trying to stir up fear of his opponent and has spent very little time explaining what he has to offer in terms of positive change. Consequently, it comes across as though no one on the Republican side has much of anything else to say except what the most recent rumor or smear is about Barack Hussein Obama.

Hey, pssst, did you know his middle name is Hussein?

Posted by mgdbottled (anonymous) on November 3, 2008 at 8 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Obama's gonna win cause in part because of his past experience as a "community organizer" which McCain/Palin mocked at their convention. Community organizers are experts at getting the vote out. They know how to win elections. Mayors know how to get the garbage collected and the streets plowed; but nothing else. I think it's hysterical. Make fun of the one talent that will .....

Posted by AmyO (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 1:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jerry wrote - "You don't suppose that Obama is winning because the MSM is in the pocket of the liberals and Hollywood and the liberals are gullible enough to believe what they are saying? Oh well, Obama will also come and go, even the Liberals are smart enough to put Hillary or Palin in office in 2012. I would imagine by now Obama has his White House staff studying Mein Kamph so they are ready to take office. "Spread The Wealth", hogwash, get a job!!"

Keep throwin' those darts Jerry. You're bound to get lucky sometime. Even if it's well after all the votes have been counted. Whoa, look out! Here comes another one!

Posted by AFMama (anonymous) on November 4, 2008 at 9:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't everyone get their panties in bunch just yet...got this from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Electo...

We won't officially know until December...and heck while were at it count all the votes since we have time, to include all those absentee ballots from people serving overseas just to see how close the popular vote really is...seems like people will have time on their hands between now and then.

"Electors chosen on Election Day meet in their respective state capitals (or in the case of Washington, D.C., within the District) on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December, at which time they cast their electoral votes on separate ballots for President and Vice President. In 2008, that meeting will be on December 15."

Posted by AmyO (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow. That's just sad, Jerry. You have no shame. And apparently no sense of decency either.

Could you please take Michele Bachmann off our hands for us? It sounds like she'd fit right in down there. Thanks.

Posted by AmyO (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So very sincere. Good day and good grief.

Posted by metasonics (Jamie Cooper) on November 5, 2008 at 5:16 p.m.

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Posted by AFMama (anonymous) on November 5, 2008 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And the back peddling on campaign promises begins...

Posted by metasonics (Jamie Cooper) on November 6, 2008 at 4:40 p.m.

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Posted by metasonics (Jamie Cooper) on November 7, 2008 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

capitalist,
quit trying to undermine America, we're at war, you have to support the president, even the president elect.
who cares what the name of the party is?
Capitalism failed pal, a long time ago, thats why there are no purely Capitalist nations left.

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