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Record Feb. 29
Published Friday, February 29, 2008
Woman may have started fire in courthouse
A woman found on the second floor of Otter Tail County Courthouse Thursday, could face arson charges for setting a fire that filled the room with smoke.
Angela Latrease Brown, 36, Fergus Falls was discovered around 2 p.m. Thursday by Deputy Rick Sheils, courthouse security.
“I smelled smoke on the second floor and I was looking for the source,” he said.
Although she was conscious, she did not speak to Sheils, who then called for medical assistance.
Brown was transported to Lake Region Hospital for evaluation. A shirt is believed to have been used to start the fire, which is under investigation.
The second floor of the courthouse is unoccupied, so there were no injuries. There is no sign of forced entry into the room.
The Fergus Falls Fire Department was called in to blow the smoke out of the building.
Reports are being forwarded to the county attorney for possible arson charges, Fergus Falls Police Capt. Steve Adams said.
Rumors that Brown spent the previous night in the courthouse appear to be unfounded, according to law enforcement, as she was seen at a convenience store earlier in the morning.
Brown is also accused of breaking into the Church of the Nazarene earlier this week. She was arrested for third degree burglary.
Teen charged with harm to geese
Adam Gerhardson, 18, Fergus falls, was charged Thursday with taking migratory waterfowl out of season, according to Fergus Falls Police.
A report was received around 10:55 a.m. that a couple of kids were wringing the necks of geese at Benjamin Lane and Goose Point, south of the high school.
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The Daily Journal is happy to host community conversations about news and life in Fergus Falls and the surrounding area. As hosts, we expect guests will show respect for each other. That means we don't threaten or defame each other, and we keep conversations free of personal attacks. Witty is great. Abusive is not. If you think a post violates these standards, don't escalate the situation. Instead, flag the comment to alert us. We'll take action if necessary. It's not hard. This should be a place where people want to read and contribute -- a place for spirited exchanges of opinion. So those who persist with racist, defamatory or abusive postings risk losing the privilege to post at all.Posted by Notthere (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 12:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Adam, I hope they throw the book at you!
Posted by Notthere (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I would hope loss of hunting privledges for life, a mental evaluation, and jail time. And possibly community service to help all the waterfowl in the area. What did a harmless goose do to you? If I were your parents I would look at this as a sign. And hopefully you get the help you obviously need.
Posted by Gassy (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If he eats the geese what's the harm?
Posted by toad3 (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Gassy,
Take some Beano!
Posted by Gassy (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I usually only get this way after a poultry meal!
Posted by Notthere (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 12:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Do you really think he was trying to kill the goose to eat? If he was the officals would have heard the story from him how he was trying to feed his family or himself. I doubt that is the case. But if it is doesnt anyone know a responsible sportsperson who would give this kid a goose?
Posted by Gassy (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
No I don't really think that. I think he should be punished and all but just trying to shed some light on the subject.
Posted by americanwerew31 (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
while i do believe that obviously there needs to be some sort of punishment, since a law was broken, standard charges ought to apply.
Notthere- O BROTHER! really? you think this crime was so HEINOUS that is requires ALL that?
And seriously; with so DARN many geese filthying up this town who doesn't feel like wringing their necks from time to time? but since it is a law, you can't.
sportsmanship has little to do with the population of in-town geese. If you haven't noticed a lot of them NEVER go anywhere to get shot during hunting season and therefore control the population.
While this guy was wrong in what he did; he does illustrate a good point. The city needs to do something about these NUISANCE geese!
Posted by Notthere (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 1:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Would any DNR or US Fish and Wildlife offcials shed some light on this?
Posted by upeoplernuts (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Its alot more fun to put a piece of bread on a fishing line. After they swollow the hook and try to fly away only to be yanked back down, now thats entertainment.
Notthere-I think you need a drink to calm down, your depends are in a bunch.
Posted by daidres (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 2:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sounds like a case of animal cruelty. Yes the geese in town are horrible, but what if it were some other animal he dicided to do that too, like you cat? It is a sign that this kid has some issues, one of the signs that this could lead him to do some pretty sick things, it starts out as an animal killer, and turns into something worse. And if he did this just for S**ts and giggles, then he needs to find a better thing to do to occupy his boredom. And get punished so he doesn't do something stupid like this again!
Posted by Lori (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 2:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree with Notthere. The little b*****d should be punished. Sad to say though, he'll probably only get his wrist slapped. And why wasn't he in class?
Posted by Gassy (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 2:17 p.m.
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Posted by sassica (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 2:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yeah why wasn't he in class? There have been a lot of unsupervised teens on the strreets during the day this week. Isn't there an officer that is supposed to be paying attention to this sort of thing?
Posted by airbear (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The kids got out of school early on Thursday for teacher confrences. I do beleive a mental evaluation should be
conducted to find out where the obvious aggresion is coming from. Isn't this how Jeffrey Domer started out as a child.....hurting innocent animals????
Posted by Notthere (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
My thoughts exactly AIRBEAR
Posted by Brandon (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 9:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I heard that this Angela lady was free-basing methadone and accidentally started her shirt on fire..
Posted by eagle_eye (anonymous) on February 29, 2008 at 11:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Animal cruelty...absolutely!!! And as for the fishing line deal...that too is a crime! People who do these things are sick. It is a proven fact that those who are cruel to animals often go on to be child or spouse abusers, or worse! Hurting or killing a defenseless animal is NOT fun, nor funny! Stories like that make me furious. I have no patience for anyone who is cruel to a child or an animal.
Posted by Gassy (anonymous) on March 1, 2008 at 10:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Eagle eye, chill out! There is a lot of anger coming from you soaring above!
Posted by Notthere (anonymous) on March 1, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thank you eagle eye atleast there are some people who have morals and to say the least a conscience.
Posted by upeoplernuts (anonymous) on March 2, 2008 at 9:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Mental evaluation? jeffrey dommer? Come on now, its a fricken goose. There are millions of them.
Posted by somthin2say (anonymous) on March 2, 2008 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This kid...(Oh wait he is an ADULT.) Obviously he has some real issues if he feels the need to ditch out of class to go and ring a gooses neck down at the levy, where kids and alot of other people in the community go to enjoy the waterfowl.He unlawfully took a migratory bird out of season, as for "upeoplernuts," its because of you that sporstmen have bad light shed on the, and I wouldnt doubt that you have some problems yourself. I know that the DNR will get this "ADULT."Have fun not hunting for a long time, I hope it was worth it.
Posted by teewagner (anonymous) on March 2, 2008 at 9:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What ever hapened to innocent until proven guilty? I have known Adam since he was a toddler and he is not capable of such cruelty. He will have his day in court and when all the facts are in the Daily Journal should recant their story.
Posted by werty (anonymous) on March 3, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Maybe his punishment should be that he is only allowed to hunt with his bare hands moving forward. I wonder...if it were hunting season and you had a license...would it be legal to ring the neck of a goose?
Posted by Notthere (anonymous) on March 3, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I will be following this case to see what he has to say in court.
If he is not capable of this. why was he arressted/cited for it?
Another case of not admiting when you have done something wrong? Wasnt me? Boo HOO!
Posted by Notthere (anonymous) on March 3, 2008 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What was Michael Vic sentenced too? For animal cruelty?Are Geese any different from dogs?
Posted by dragonlord824 (anonymous) on March 3, 2008 at 11:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
werty and upeoplernuts... you both have a good point. i myself have grabbed a goose by its neck. my family doesnt have all the damn food that everyone else has, so therefore it was fine! now some of you idiots that are on here complaining about adam doing this to the goose either work for Otter Tail Power or you are retired. you got enough money to feed your damn family, so stop ragging on us that dont. oh, and adam, he wont get charged.
Posted by Notthere (anonymous) on March 3, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sorry dragonlord824 you are wrong on that one! I am neither!
And what is the best way to prepare a goose?
Posted by Notthere (anonymous) on March 3, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
And by the way, doesnt Fergus have a food shelf?
Posted by teewagner (anonymous) on March 4, 2008 at 3:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
There were no dead geese found at the levy that day, this is a non-incident. The police were called to the levy to investigate by an over zealous witness and found nothing, end of story!
Posted by tink (anonymous) on March 4, 2008 at 7:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i have talked to adam, the daily journal completely printed an over-reaction....it was a couple of kids screwing around,and actually not hurting the geese, they never killed a single goose and like always some person freaked out and called the cops...
Posted by somthin2say (anonymous) on March 4, 2008 at 9:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
oh ya they were just ringin the gooses neck for fun right, with no intention to hurt it. Bottom line is, does this "ADULT" have nothing better to do then go down to the levy and terrorize geese and ducks? "Tink" Adam and his buddies arent kids anymore, you need to comprehend that. Whoever needs to go down to the levy to kill a goose so they can feed there family needs to find something called a "JOB."
Posted by TheRussian (anonymous) on March 5, 2008 at 12:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Well I happen to be a classmate and good friend of adam and I think most of you are pretty stupid... you DON'T even know adam and you weren't there. SO WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE WITH SO LITTLE INFORMATION! the article had a small inaccuracy, it claims a couple of kids were wringing the necks of geese. when it was just one kid wringing the neck of one goose... that didn't die.
Posted by doctipster (anonymous) on March 5, 2008 at 1:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
ahhh shut up yall... Its not like we don't have a million of those damn things blocking traffic every damn year. Wish I had a fast bulldozer Id hit em all. All you damn Peta freaks...
Peta = People Eating Tasty Animals....
Posted by dragonlord824 (anonymous) on March 5, 2008 at 2:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
doctipster, thank you for making everyone understand that the geese population sucks. at times i wish i could kill one thats in my way. like you said, there are alot of geese here. this town, has 40 times the many geese as it does humans. for gods sake, people, shut up. and leave the poor dude alone.
Posted by sonsty_33 (anonymous) on March 5, 2008 at 10:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
i was one of the kids supposedly stranglying the geese's necks....i was there when everything happened....The article in the paper was not accurate the goose never died... everything was blown out of proportion.... And for everyone that thinks he was in the wrong.... what does it matter if one goose dies....and by the way the goose never did die.... as an avide hunter this not out of the ordinary we have to strangly geese all the time.....its not like he hurt anyone....and the way that all you people are making it sound like he killed somebody....... and for f**** sakes lay off of the kid..... i am sure you were a kid one day... however you may not have screwed with the geese....but i am sure that is alot better in the eyes of the law than what you where doing....F**** everybody that judges adam you dont know the kid and you where sure as hell not there.... so lay the F*** off.......
Posted by everyonecalmdown (anonymous) on March 5, 2008 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thank you to everyone who is defending Adam against this bogus claim. What everyone should realize before getting nuts, is no where in the article does it talk about a DEAD goose. There were none! Sonsty_33.... your comments would have been a lot more effective if you wouldn't have used f*** so much - that so totally takes away from your creditability and makes you look so juvenile. In my opinion, the Daily Journal shouldn't allow the comments that need ***. In mature and sensible talk, Adam is completely innocent of the charges against him and plans to plead innocent. I certainly hope the Journal prints that story when this case is done.
Posted by werty (anonymous) on March 5, 2008 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sometimes when your feeding bread to those tame "city" geese you just think ...wow! that's one long neck...and wonder if you could get close enough to grab it and ring it...well Adam answered this lingering question for all of us. I'd like to thank him for that because once the oil shortage happens and nuclear war breaks out I know where I can get a tasty goose with very little effort...and if there is enough radiation from the nukes...maybe...just maybe that tasty goose will have three necks to ring.
Posted by tink (anonymous) on March 5, 2008 at 6:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
somthin2say. I know that Adam is an adult. If THE WHOLE story was actually printed by the daily journal instead of their take on it we wouldn't even be writing about this. Lets hope the retraction gets as much attention!!
Posted by Notthere (anonymous) on March 6, 2008 at 8:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
sonsty_33 sounds like you need help along with your buddy Adam. Does this scare anyone knowing this is our future? What has happened to the youth? Everyonecalmdown I totally agree. People who put so many swear words in place of a good adjective = ignorance.
Posted by TheRussian (anonymous) on March 6, 2008 at 11:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What the hell is your problem? just because we swear doesn't make us destined to be the scum of the earth. here you go judging people you don't know again. do you have some serious issue or something? i think you need one of those mental evaluations you speak so highly of notthere. just because we might dress, talk, look, and act different doesn't make us wreckless, bad, and futureless. besides were still growing and changing.
Now...
DON'T THINK YOUR BETTER THEN EVERYONE BASED OFF YOUR PATHETIC SHALLOW JUDGMENTS!! you need to learn to accept change or things that are just different. and why do you value the life of this goose so much? every second there is something dying somewhere naturally, and by unnatural means. i just don't see how you can care this much.
Posted by sonsty_33 (anonymous) on March 7, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
notthere i highly doubt that i need a mental evaluation.... and who r u to judge someone that u dont even know.... i think that is pretty crappy....our generation is the future and we are going to be fine.... all of us have a bright future ahead of us..... and the reason why i am cursing is because of people like you(notthere) you people piss me off so much because you think that u r so much better than us...... i dont know why and i dont care.... just because my vocabulary consist of swear words doesnt make me a bad person.... oh and more thing notthere f*** you
Posted by mr_e34 (anonymous) on March 7, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
notthere, I would like to take a moment to present you with the basic facts of this case.
1) YOU WERE NOT PRESENT WHEN IT HAPPENED. you judge only by what you read in the newspaper and possibly some rumors you heard through the grapevine.
2) You do NOT KNOW Adam or sonsty or the russian. For that matter you do not know me either, but I can sure guess that you have already gone to work judging me.
3) NO GEESE, DUCKS, DEER, FLIES, ELEPHANTS, MAGGOTS or anything else were killed at the levy that day by the accussees herein. In order to "take" migratory waterfowl, it is only sensible its life be compromised. Since it was not killed, how can someone be charged with poaching?
I think I am going to take my turn at judging you. You are certainly the type who strolls around on your high horse. You complain about all the problems in the world, but all you can manage to do is sit on your little computer and anonymously post your opinions on you have never met. That strikes me as a clear conflict of interests. If you have children they are more than likely trained robots that have had any trace of personality shunned out of them. You frown upon normal activities of children, adolescents and young adults. You would call the police after witnessing someone "spin the tires" on snow or ice, but only if the driver appears to be youthful.
What you need to do is learn to accept the fact that "kids will be kids" and if you really want to make a difference in this community, understand that it will not happen because you prejudge and opinionize teenagers on your computer. Get involved and get off your damn high horse b*tch. I'll be checking back to see what you have to say "notthere"
Posted by mr_e34 (anonymous) on March 7, 2008 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
notthere, I would like to take a moment to present you with the basic facts of this case.
1) YOU WERE NOT PRESENT WHEN IT HAPPENED. you judge only by what you read in the newspaper and possibly some rumors you heard through the grapevine.
2) You do NOT KNOW Adam or sonsty or the russian. For that matter you do not know me either, but I can sure guess that you have already gone to work judging me.
3) NO GEESE, DUCKS, DEER, FLIES, ELEPHANTS, MAGGOTS or anything else were killed at the levy that day by the accussees herein. In order to "take" migratory waterfowl, it is only sensible its life be compromised. Since it was not killed, how can someone be charged with poaching?
I think I am going to take my turn at judging you. You are certainly the type who strolls around on your high horse. You complain about all the problems in the world, but all you can manage to do is sit on your little computer and anonymously post your opinions on you have never met. That strikes me as a clear conflict of interests. If you have children they are more than likely trained robots that have had any trace of personality shunned out of them. You frown upon normal activities of children, adolescents and young adults. You would call the police after witnessing someone "spin the tires" on snow or ice, but only if the driver appears to be youthful.
What you need to do is learn to accept the fact that "kids will be kids" and if you really want to make a difference in this community, understand that it will not happen because you prejudge and opinionize teenagers on your computer. Get involved and get off your damn high horse b*tch. I'll be checking back to see what you have to say "notthere"
Posted by davieboy (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sonsty_33:
You don't do your generation much good by using the "F" word in every other sentence. There are words that would probably have been better tolerated and have given your argument a little more credibility...instead you just came off sounding like a foul mouthed punk.......or is that what you were trying to do? I'm not judging you, I'm just saying that is how it appeared.
To The Russian:"you need to learn to accept change or things that are just different." Unfortunately, that reasoning is used way too often today to justify just about everything we want to do and not have to be held accountable for. If you don't want to be judged too harshly, try to realize that in order to exist as a 1/2 way decent society we need to have laws and when and "If" people break those laws, people need to be held accountable for their actions. Anyone willing to live accordingly shouldn't have to worry about being "destined to be the scum of the earth".
Posted by sonsty_33 (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
davieboy.... for one adam didnt do what the daily journal said he did he was charged with a bogus claim..... in order to take a migatory waterfowl out of season i am pretty sure that u need to kill the goose.... so how can he be charged with that... and the reason i a cursing is that people like nothere piss me off.... and what kind of language do people use when there mad.....they curse...... i am not trying to be creditable cuz i know what happened i was there....... and i am the farest thing away from a punk as i can get....
Posted by davieboy (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 2:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sonsty_33: You have my apology. I'm sorry if I misjudged you.
Posted by TheRussian (anonymous) on March 11, 2008 at 12:03 a.m.
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Posted by davieboy (anonymous) on March 11, 2008 at 2:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
TheRussian: Sounds like you could benefit from a little Anger Management. You are so over the top that you are frightening. Do you really expect to be taken seriously when you rant like that? Credibility? Are you kidding. What do you do next....make threats? That's usually the pattern with people such as you that are so apparently out of control. Seriously. You need to lighten up and "Let it go." You appear to need help. I hope you get it.
Posted by TheRussian (anonymous) on March 11, 2008 at 10:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
lol sorry my anonymous internet post scared you... oh my god he used capital letters, vulgar language and exclamation points. send him to some counseling... i dont know man that was hardly a rant but if so why would you not take a ranter serious? i certainly wouldnt think an enraged person is joking around. "Credibility? Are you kidding" you should explain or argue if you think im wrong cause maybe your right and i didnt understand what you meant, maybe not i dont know you didnt say much. now making threats? out of control? haha no i dont think so. though you are now labeling me... saying i'm a short tempered, out of control and that i'm in need psychiatric help. yeah thats real cool of you :|
Posted by sonsty_33 (anonymous) on March 12, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
davieboy....personaly i am a good friend of the russian and i dont know why u r saying he needs anger-managment.....just because he used big words that u probally couldnt comprehend.... and to the staff of the daily journal..... why did u delet his comment he didnt use anymore vulgur words than i did..... wait i know probally because he is making alot more sense than any other person that has commented on this site......wait one more thing adam went to his attorney and his is getting off.... of this stupid charge.... and to the staff of the daily journal i hope you reprint the article and say ur sorry for making this a bigger issue than it really is..... and its funny that the fergus falls daily journal has nothing better to do than humilate a teenagers.... there are way more bigger problems going on in our society than what adam did.... like that stupid f***ing person that decided to shoot at a school bus......i just thought that everyone should know so u can stop putting these stupid f***ing comment on here about adam..... hope everyone has a nice day knowing that adam isnt in any trouble... and bruce kolle what the hell were u thinking
Posted by fennell18 (anonymous) on March 12, 2008 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i dont see how anybody can be yelling at the russian or sonsty_33 for not being credtiable when they are the only ones who know the story from both sides. i personally have heard the story from adam himself and have read about it in the paper. everyone else should quit arguing about this stuff until they have heard the other side of the story
Posted by TheRussian (anonymous) on March 12, 2008 at 11:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
HAHAHAHAHA wow you suggested my comment for removal.... could you not handle it or something? also i'm quite curious as to why you wished it to be removed. just what part of it was so offensive or maybe "frightening"? sounds stupid i know... but those capital letters are pretty big i guess, i dont blame you... ridiculous
Posted by mr_e34 (anonymous) on March 12, 2008 at 11:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow. A person accused of killing a goose (which was not killed) sure can cause a stir in this town. And these days, when somebody sticks up for their friend, they are immediately characterized as individuals in vehement need of mental scrutiny and assistance. Adam Gerhardson is my friend, and when I saw this small, delusive, counterfactual article and the comments posted by uninfromed jacka$$es declaring their undying hatred for him, I felt it prudent that I, and a some buddies, step in and tell you people that you are misinformed and WRONG. davieboy, you are one of my main targets along with notthere (who has mysteriously dissappeared, i guess there is new stories with new individuals to libel and express utter disdain for). you all need to realize that you do not know us one bit. i know sonsty and the russian quite well, much better than davieboy and can attest to their mental health personally. neither requires an anger management course, or evaluation or anything and nor does adam. Basically what you are trying to do is belittle me and all my friends, pretty much call us out as a group of psychotic sociopaths who are going to all grow up to find ourselves in state or federal penitentiaries serving a life sentence in prison. Get off your computer, get a life and, why not get to know a person before dismissing their existence as one which is highly detrimental to the world
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