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Two hurt in high-speed chase

Published Sunday, March 9, 2008

A Minnesota State Trooper was among two people injured during a high-speed chase that ended with a three-vehicle crash on Highway 59 in Fergus Falls.

The chase started in Grant County when authorities attempted to pull over a white van for a routine traffic stop, according to the Fergus Falls Police Department.

The van failed to stop and a chase ensured and moved into Otter Tail County.

The State Patrol set up stop-sticks near the intersection of Highway 59 and Highway 210 on the east side of Fergus Falls.

The van approached the roadblock and slammed head-on into a State Patrol squad car, police department officials said. The van flipped over onto its roof. The squad car was pushed into a Fergus Falls Police Department police car. Both squads received extensive damage. The driver of the van was transported to Lake Region Hospital with serious injuries, police department officials said. The State Trooper was also transported to the hospital by ambulance. His injuries were believed to be less serious.

More details on the chase and accident will be available Monday as more details become available.

Visit www.fergusfallsjournal.com or the printed edition of The Daily Journal Monday for more details.

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Posted by notcominghome (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 7:22 p.m.

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Posted by concerned08 (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 7:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You're an idiot. A state trooper gets hurt (doing his job protecting you!) because some idiot doesn't stop when he is supposed to and you think the idiot is the one that is the victim. What is your problem?

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Posted by HoldenCaulfield (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 7:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

notcominghome.....your posts are a joke right? if not you are a sick MF.

Posted by roggy62 (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 7:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Some of you must belong to this new generation, no common sense, no respect and no responsibility. If there was common sense there would have been no chase, if there was respect, you stop for the officer and if there is responsibility you take the consequences for your actions. These three things are missing in our society today, again, common sense, respect and responsibility.

Posted by youbet (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 8:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am sorry roggy62 but what generation did you grow up in? Cop chases I believe have been around for a while now. Notcominghome you are a moron.

Posted by davieboy (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 8:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To notcominghome: "Maybe they should not chase people?"
So you're saying that if someone is breaking the law and they're running away....Law Enforcement should just let them go? If not...it's Law Enforcements fault if there's an accident. Is that what you're saying? If you're serious then it appears you've got some serious problems in the way you view society. If you are not being serious....you appear to have a great future as a comedian. Actually, there's nothing funny about what happened today.
I was at the scene and if Law Enforcement hadn't set up the road block where they did, the "Victim" would have been speeding through Fergus Falls. Who knows how many other innocent people might have been hurt or killed. If the "Victim" wasn't doing anything wrong, why did he run?The State Trooper was the good guy here. He was the real "Victim". How do you think his family feels today? How do you think he feels? I can't imagine he's happy about the outcome. Just because you appear to have some major anti-establishment issues, please don't try and spin this otherwise.
Kudos to roggy62,Holden Caulfied,and concerned08.

Posted by otterfan123 (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 8:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was driving on highway 59 about 2 miles outside of fergus when this guy sped past me head on with 3 squad cars behind him. ( FFPD, Sheriff, and a highway patrol man) He veered over the center line several times into my lane so I was forced to get way off the road. It was quite obvious he had that poor white van maxed out on speed and law enforcement was doing a hell of a job with the chase, acting quickly before the fool could get any further into city limits. I feel sorry for all that was involved and feel the officers are the true heros in the case. Why would you not commend them first?? They risked their lives for each and everyone of us and got the job done so none of us could be injured when he came blazin though town. Thanks law enforcement for a job well done. This guy looked sick (we made eye contact) and apparently was sick, and needs to be taught a nice lesson in the slammer.

Posted by lenny (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Police chases should be limited to serious matters, not routine traffic stops. The only law enforcement personnel who engage in high speed chases for small crimes are the Frank Burns types. That also why they have radios, so long distance chases are unnecessary.

Posted by davieboy (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 9:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You were there lenny? If not you don't really know what transpired. Let's wait until all the facts come out.

Posted by davieboy (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 9:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

p.s. Frank Burns was military.......do you mean Barnie Fife?

Posted by ffguy (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 10:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Reading what notcominghome has to say makes my f*****g blood boil!
You are comparing the Police to the suspect they were trying to stop. You think they should just let him go.
The Police are out there trying to protect us! Even garbage as yourself.
I am just glad that noone was killed.
What you said about getting workmans comp is sick! I am sure you live a dangerous life, you little Coward!
It makes me so mad that these people are out there in Harm's Way and they have to deal with people like you!!! I am embarrassed!
Think twice! You too, will need help someday!
The Trooper you are talking about is a real person! He has a family!
I am sure you are contribute alot to society, as you probably wrote this article on break time in your jail cell.
It saddens me to know that you are in our community!

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Posted by mbear (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 10:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was just a couple miles past the county line and the police officer was not chasing in fast mode! When I pulled over the van took off around the car in front of him/her (that apparently did not see the flashing lights).I'm thankful that the lights were flashing because I was warned that there was a problem on the road and YES IT WAS FOR MY PROTECTION AS WELL AS OTHERS. I could see that the van was being driven recklessly and that the police car stayed back giving plenty of room for the van to stop safely. If the lights had not been on I could have been the one hurt but fortunately an officer took the hit for me. Thank you Officers!!!!!!!!

Posted by lenny (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 10:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

davieboy, no I was not there. I don’t need to be there to make the statement I made, which conforms with the law or practices in many states and refers to the general practice of high speed chases. The story itself said that the chase began after a routine traffic stop attempt. The cops were not chasing a murderer or rapist or terrorist. Therefore they (the cops) should not have endangered the lives of others for a small matter. I assume that they recorded the license number during the chase. Would it make you feel better if some innocent person was killed by being rammed by a fleeing car or police cruiser over a speeding ticket or some other diminutive matter? Lastly, Burns or Fife makes no difference to me they are both the same caliber.

Posted by killdeer (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 10:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

These high speed chases are more of a hazard than whatever the" Perp" was doing, in most cases. It's regular Barney Phyfe moment!

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Posted by Mel (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 10:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Lenny, It looks to me that they DID radio ahead, and did the right thing, I wonder what was wrong with the guy who started the chase.

Posted by lenny (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 10:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Looks like the idiots are out tonight. Gumball, if your narrative is true then you had probable cause. Do you know what that means? That means you had good reason to pickup this person who was driving drunk. As far as gumball is concerned I think we found Barnie Phyfe.

Posted by ffguy (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 10:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Barney Fife I am sick of this name being slaughtered!
Learn to spell!

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Posted by ffprofessor (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 11:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It always amazes me to see people like ffguy and gumball arguing against reasonableness.

Posted by anonB (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 11:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I personally know the man involved in this crash and no matter what all of you want to say about him, I hope you remember that he has a family who is going through hell right now.

Just because he was the one who caused the crash doesn't mean his family is hurting less than the police officer's family. In fact, in addition to dealing with their loved one's injuries, they are dealing with the fact that he hurt other people.

There are many people involved in this and it is a terrible thing that happened.

Posted by ffguy (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 11:16 p.m.

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Posted by Frogie (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 11:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IF THEY HAD DONE NOTHING WRONG WHY RUN??? JUST SOMEGUY OUT FOR A SUNDAY RIDE AND THOUGHT HE COULD OUT RUN THE COPS! AS I READ ABOUT THIS I SAID A PRAY FOR EVERYONE THAT WAS THERE. EVEN THE GUY IN THE VAN!

Posted by ffguy (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 11:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ffprofessor? Have you not read what he has written? Don't act like that!
There is a reason for the arguing. There is right and wrong!
Don't act so Holy! Maybe you should read on a little more professor.
bad guy - Cops They were doing their job!

Posted by lenny (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 11:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes I do. I made a reasonable post regarding the policies in several states regarding high speed chases, which errs on the side of caution to protect innocent lives. Then you come along with a post which calls me names for being reasonable and stating the truth. You go on to act and talk like an illiterate cowboy who can not distinguish between a broken tail light and a murderer and would treat all chases alike just because they may turn into a major crime. Truthfully you sound like a cop who has been kicked off the force for good reason. BTW, what you do in your own basement is your business and the rest of us don’t need to know about it.

Posted by ffguy (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 11:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lenny,
Another great piece! Thank you for sharing that! Sometimes reading your words I think I am reading a great novel! ..... what is next? Who knows?

Posted by lenny (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 11:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You wouldn’t know the difference between a great novel and a matchbook advertisement.

Posted by Paul (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 11:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ha, good one lenny.

Posted by Redcloud (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 11:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey ffguy, quit while you are behind!

Posted by ffguy (anonymous) on March 9, 2008 at 11:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lenny,
Serious now. You have to pick sides in life. Do you wanna choose sides with the guy that made a bad decision or with the guys that are out there every night protecting you.
I am glad that everyone is O.K. I do not want anyone to get hurt!
I know you don't either.

Posted by lenny (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 12:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ffguy, what is it about my post that you fail to understand? I’ll try one more time. I stated a policy that is used in several states concerning high speed chases. That being that high speed chases should be reserved for very serious matters, not routine traffic stops because it is not worth the danger involved to chase someone at high speed when other methods of capture are available. It has nothing to do with taking sides. I think the police did the right thing by radioing ahead to set up stop sticks. Again I was simply stating the truth, perhaps next time you should take the time to read someone’s post before you call everyone names.

Posted by ffguy (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 12:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

They did do the "right Thing". I am glad we agree!

Posted by ffguy (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 12:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

None of us were in their seats. They had to make split dicisions that they thought were best for us. I can sleep good tonight knowing that they made the right one.

Posted by ffguy (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 12:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It does not matter why the person was being pulled over. He drove fast, he drove reckless, he crashed. That is all there is to it. The only one to blame is him!

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Posted by ffguy (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 12:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Right on jafo!

Posted by ffguy (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 12:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Glad you caught that jafo.

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Posted by Norse (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 1:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The 'perp' in this case...is only a victim of himself. We shall see what the details are, however it is a crime not to stop when the law enforcement vehicle is doing their job. It is a tragedy for the 'perp' to have chosen to crash into an officer doing his job. May they both recover fully from their injuries. The perp needs to be brought to justice, he should not get the 'easy' way out that it appears he was choosing.

Posted by The_Nick (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 7:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lenny, you are an idiot! You say chases should be reserved for serious offenses, not routine traffic stops. You also say that chases should only happen if the suspect is a rapist or a murderer. The cop was trying to make a routine traffic stop, when the driver didn't stop it suddenly turned into a serious offense. Fleeing an officer is a serious offense. And, how was the officer to know that the person driving the van wasn't a rapist or a murderer? For all that officer knew, he was.

Posted by ffbison (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 7:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Notcominghome...your comments are a disgrace to human decency and intelligence. No wonder so many people think the world is going to hell. I can't believe people think like you do.

Posted by davieboy (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 7:50 a.m.

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Posted by lpilan (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 7:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You all are hilarious, thank you for making my morning cup of coffee more enjoyable.

Posted by davieboy (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 8:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

lpilan: Glad to be of service!

Posted by werty (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Do you think the journal has employees posting on here to cause a ruckus of banter? I know Bob Williams used to in the past...Just a thought.

Posted by lenny (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 8:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If I said that it is the policy to read people their rights before questioning? What would you conclude from that statement? Some of you illiterate hayseeds would conclude that I hate cops or that I sided with lawbreakers, when an intelligent person would conclude nothing other than I had stated a true and actual fact. In this case I did not side with the cops nor the person being chased but simply stated a policy already adopted by many states and police departments.
Many of these policies came about after a little girl and her parents were killed in a high speed chase in Ohio where the person being chased ran a traffic light to avoid arrest over parking tickets. The Ohio state patrol recognized the license number and gave chase. In that case three people are dead because some hot shot decided that endangering citizens lives was worth catching a parking violator. Based on the remarks of ffguy, jafo, davieboy, thenick and others I assume they would make the same calculation in their feeble minds.
Nick, reread my post, I never said that chases should be reserved for murders and rapists only, but merely gave them as examples of stated policy. If the intelligent level displayed by you posters is an example of a Fergus Falls education system it should come as no surprise that some parents send their children to Underwood.

Posted by ANonnyMoose (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

AnonB -- while you're right that there were many people hurt here, I think we should all be careful about statements like "it is a terrible thing that happened." Those are words that are used to skirt around accepting responsibility for one's actions. This isn't something that "happened;" this was a deliberate ACT done by a real living breathing person who made a really stupid, potentially fatal choice. It's not an accident like a picture falling off a wall. Someone committed a serious, dangerous crime here, and there is definite blame to be assigned. Let's not pretend there were mysterious forces at work. But you're right -- let's keep the families in our thoughts at this difficult time....

One of the more revolting developments in recent years is the harebrained theory that responsibility for a high-speed chase somehow belongs to the pursuing police, as though they're the ones creating dangerous levels of velocity and the poor little car in front of them has no choice but to stay ahead somehow in order to keep from being hurt. What a load of crap. The police are pursuing in order to STOP the pursuit. It was the criminal in this case, not the cops, who abandoned all concern for the safety of others. Everyone is lucky that more people weren't hurt. The officers should all be commended.

Posted by connie_s (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A lack of respect for the people whe have went out of their way to protect society from danger is what is wrong with our society.
Why do some of you feel the rights of the criminal were violated?
Do you know all the facts??
Jumping to conclusion is probably the only exercise you get.
I hope you never need the services of these fine officers.
I suppose you think the men and women serving our country are the bad people too.

Posted by ajohnsonx (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 8:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lenny-

regardless if it is a "routine" traffic stop, or serious offense, it makes no difference. If you get pulled over for a missing taillight, or speeding, and then take off....of course the police will chase. In 99% of these cases, they are leading a chase for a reason..pulled over for a taillight.. police find drugs, no license, DUI...etc.

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Posted by Vampire (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What’s with this ffguy, he makes post after post arguing with himself.

Posted by lakeman (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It sounds to me that there are alot of loosers in the Fergus Falls area. If the cops would have just let this person go and mail him a ticket not knowing what his problems were he may have hurt a lot of people before they would have had a reason to stop him. I feel Jeff Hage should read what he writes before it hit the printer.....

Posted by ANonnyMoose (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

There are a lot of losers everywhere, Lakeman. As far as FF is concerned, you'll find a lot more normal people and even winners here than you will losers.

Posted by drknow (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 10:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Looks to me more like Underwood public school logic or debate class

Posted by imjustagirl (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I thought it was a cool crash. I'm glad the officer is okay, I could care less if the "perp" is okay or not. Everyone better agree with me, or I will fight you.

Posted by ucknay (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 11:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

someone define "routine traffic stop" is there really such a thing. Any traffic stop can be anything but routine. With all the issues that are happening in our society today I find that nothing is really "routine" A broken tail light can lead to a large drug stop, a dui, an endangered child, someone rushing to the hospital. A police officer takes that chance everytime he stops someone. They should be commended.

Posted by Norse (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 11:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Uhuh, a revoked license, and an attempt to run head-on into a county sheriff on the way to FF. This 'perp' was on a murderous rampage and popping a few caps into his vehicle before it hit the state patrol car probably would have been justifiable. 48 year old Jeffrey Anderson should face stiff penalties and brought to justice. His freedom is a public endangerment.

Posted by clrkrr (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think that notcominghome and some others with rude comments towards officers just have some sort of a grudge against the cops. Maybe they have been in trouble and hate any cops now or something.

I have respect for any, especially since I have a cousin in FL that is a cop (and her hubby also) they have two kids; and my brother-in-law is a deputy sherriff in Cloquet with a wife and child, and one on the way. So I worry about them when they are on duty. I would hope that anyone else with family in any kind of law enforcement would feel the same way.

SO to anyone that has a bad attitude about this.....GET over it and wait for more of the story to get out.
Thanks FPD!!

Posted by lakeman (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nicely said ucknay!! Also nicely said clrkrr.
Thank you all of the Officers and Fire Dept. Memebers that were involved with this. With out all of you this would be a very unsafe place to live. It is sad that there are people like notcominghome and a few others out there that do not understand what Law Enforcement and Fire Fighters go thru day in and day out. The famlies do not know if there LOVED ONE will make it home at the end of there shift and it is a plus when they do.
May GOD BLESS THEM ALL AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE!!!!!!

Posted by silly272002 (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 1:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lakeman, but by the person not pulling over for a small infraction and deciding to speed off, isn't that a sign that there is more that they have done wrong???

Thank you to the police and fire department for all that they do. Some of us appreciate your effort!!

Posted by youbet (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lenny-
I find it sad computers and the internet have come down in price this much. There was a time when one had to have a education to afford such things....

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Posted by lenny (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 3:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

davieboy, don’t you ever get embarrassed? You obviously can not read, let alone understand the English language. My posts have been clear and concise yet you remain ignorant of the basic facts even after repeated attempts to enlighten you. Since I can not get through to you perhaps if you do a Google search and type the words “High speed Chase Policy” and then have someone else read the entries to you, you will believe what I have written. I realize this will be a major undertaking for you so maybe you could get a few of your Neanderthal illiterate friends like fffguy, jafo, nick and youbet to help you. Between the five of you may just come to the understanding that one may enunciate a policy without agreeing or disagreeing with said policy.

Posted by ffprofessor (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Save your breath lenny. A Google search reveals there are 307,000 entries for “High Speed Chase Policy” and these posters will simply deny they exist or claim you hate Google’s founder.

Posted by Vampire (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think we have a few cop wannabes here. You know the kind who were bullied in school so they want to be cops when the grow up so they can get back at society. The same kind of person who put that “Sheriffs Association” sticker on his driver side window so the cops will think he is one of them. To bad you must be able to read and write to pass the test and can’t have six toes.

Posted by youbet (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 4:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lenny,
To make that comment and bring race into this issue is a joke. It did not matter what ethnic backround was involved here.

Posted by lenny (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 4:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks youbet, you prove my point exactly!!!!

Posted by ANonnyMoose (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 5:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"High Speed Chase Policies" don't exist because the police are responsible for harming innocent people. They're in place because of overly litigious attorneys who convince grieving families that the only way they're getting any settlement out of their loss is to sue police departments, since the yahoos who initiate these chases usually don't have a pot to whiz in. The government has money; meth-heads don't. I think that's a completely ridiculous position to take. When innocent people are killed as a result of high speed chases, it's the fault of the criminals, not the police.

Posted by The_Nick (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 5:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lenny ~
I didn't see anywhere in the article that any of the officers involved were getting into any kind trouble. That must mean that the "pursuit policies" in Grant and Otter Tail Counties were followed correctly. It appears to me that the officers did the right thing.

Posted by ffguy (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lenny
You keep talking about chase poilicies. The Police did what they were supposed to do. They set up stop sticks and were waiting for the suspect. They did not want him driving like a maniac in town. They did that to save people's lives!
He rammed the squad cars on purpose.
He should have stopped as soon as the officer's lights were on.
He is the one that broke the law, he put his life in danger,he rammed his own car,he is responsible!
The Police did nothing wrong. How can you argue with that?

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Posted by The_Nick (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 6:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lenny
For the sake of your own argument, why don't you find the "pursuit policies" from Grant County, Otter Tail County or the City of Fergus Falls. The policies from Ohio or whatever other state you are talking about have no bearing here in MINNESOTA! Ohio policies don't mean crap in Fergus Falls!

Posted by lenny (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 6:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nick, are you really that stupid? I mentioned Ohio as a example of an accident that led to the implementation of some high speed chase policies. I never said that Ohio rules had anything to do with policies here or in grant county. Do you see why I say you people can not read?

Posted by sweetpea (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 6:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Some of you posters are amazing. You can not even read but that doesn’t stop you from making fools of yourselves. Or even asking questions that have been answered before on the same page, if you could read you could go back and find your answer.

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Posted by lenny (anonymous) on March 10, 2008 at 11:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No wonder there are so many mistakes in spelling.

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Posted by Tmalve (anonymous) on March 11, 2008 at 2:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank You site staff for REMOVING some of the "bonehead" comments on this story. Thank You to our Law Enforcement for RISKING your lives not only in this situation but EVERY DAY!!! Glad to hear no one was seriously injured. Hope for a quick recovery for those that were injured. I may feel sorry for Mr. Andersons family but I have no sympathy for him. Mr. Anderson put himself in this situation no one else. If Mr. Anderson would have stopped when the stop was initiated, this would not have happened. He had no reason to flee if he was not doing anything wrong, which turns out he was obviously a "BAD BOY". In my opinion Mr. Anderson used his vehicle as a Weapon and put many lives at risk. Hope he is held accountable for his actions and the courts sentance him accordingly, "NO BARGINS". Not sure how many of the Officers are PIT certified, so I am wondering why the PIT manouver was not executed to stop him long before the crash/injuries. If one is fleeing from an Officer, do you REALLY think you are going to get away!!! There is a 100% chance many, many more are going to be LOOKING to stop you.

Posted by Flashbang (anonymous) on March 11, 2008 at 8:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lenny, you said "I never said that Ohio rules,,,". It does when it comes to Buckeye football. 8^)
I have read all your posts and that of others and you post isn't that difficult to understand. I believe all who are posting here agree the police did the right thing considering the circumstances and that Anderson should be locked away for awhile. But I'm betting he won't get much time at all. Anyone want to speculate a sentence? I can think of aggravated assualt or reckless endangerment as a charge. I've seen the word murder thrown around but I don't think that Anderson went out driving with any intent to kill someone.

Posted by Norse (anonymous) on March 11, 2008 at 1:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

One eye-witness commented on the look in Anderson's eye when they made eye contact as they passed on the road. Attempting to run head-on into the county sheriff vehicle was attempted murder, running head-on into the state patrol car was attempted murder. Luckily the driver was not in the vehicle Anderson hit. Also, it appears as though Anderson was Suicidal, that constitutes self-Attempted-MURDER. But by all means, let's spend tens of thousands of dollars to replace the vehicles Anderson destroyed, hundreds of thousands more to bring him back to health, rehab him physically, provide him with a public defender, provide him with food, shelter, and clothing while he excercises his rights to a fair-trial and representation in a court of law for a crime to which he was only allegedly a party.

Posted by tanker8 (anonymous) on March 11, 2008 at 2:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So is it wrong or irresponsible of agencies who do terminate chases?

Posted by lenny (anonymous) on March 11, 2008 at 3 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Norse, Let me see if I have this straight, the “perp” (don’t you just love police talk?) was doing 90 miles an hour and he meets someone going 55 miles per hour, for a combined speed of 145 miles per hour and they MAKE EYE CONTACT!!! Is that your story?

Posted by The_Nick (anonymous) on March 11, 2008 at 5:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Lenny, the sky is blue.

Posted by lakeman (anonymous) on March 11, 2008 at 5:48 p.m.

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Posted by lenny (anonymous) on March 11, 2008 at 6:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lakeman, If I was you?…..If I were you I would attempt to use proper grammar.

Posted by clint (anonymous) on March 11, 2008 at 8:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think this situation was handled just fine. Officers are trained to handle such situations and must evaluate the need to apprehend the suspect compared to the risk to the community if they are allowed to continue.

The suspect was spotted going 90 mph in a 55 zone. The suspect didn't stop when singled to do so and apparently tried to ram officers off the road. This sounds like the type of person that needs to be stopped. The agencies involved made a plan and followed their department's policies. They attempted to stop or slow the fleeing vehicle with stop stick when he apparently intentionally rammed the police vehicles. All of this was done before the chase could enter a heavily populated area. Sounds like text book police work.

It is true that some chases should be called off as they become to dangerous. Sometimes its hard to determine when a chase has reached that particular point as these are ever changing events. Also, a lot of larger cities do have a no chase policies. That does not mean they dont pursue. It just means certain factor have to be in place before a chase is allowed to continue. Also, there is a HUGE difference between chasing a vehicle in the rural setting compared to a city.

My heart goes out to any innocent motorist or bystander that has been injured or killed in a police chase. These are rather rare occurrences but they do happen. I dont recall when the last time something like that happened in Ottertail County or any neighboring counties.

Also, just so you are aware. The vast majority of officers dont get any joy out of being in a pursuit. Its not fun. Its not something they hope to get involved in. It is probably one of the most terrifying experiences an officer can encounter in his/her career. I speak from experience. I have been a police officer in a neighboring city of about 40k that has been in several pursuits in my career. I also happen to be a EVOC teacher and train new officers in vehicle operations, including pursuit intervention and driving techniques.

Posted by Norse (anonymous) on March 11, 2008 at 10:10 p.m.

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Posted by citizenkane (anonymous) on March 12, 2008 at 12:10 a.m.

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Posted by lenny (anonymous) on March 12, 2008 at 9:29 a.m.

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Posted by citizenkane (anonymous) on March 14, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Here to why are the removing our comments?

Posted by americasmostwantedmyspace (anonymous) on March 15, 2008 at 4:41 p.m.

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Posted by enjoy12 (anonymous) on March 16, 2008 at 8:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, this is what the FF area does, argues over things you have no control over!! SICK!!!

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